Product Manager at Google

Apple UE6j$&
Apr 3, 2018 33 Comments

Jeez. I have been trying hard to get in Product Manager roles at Google. But with no luck even getting a reply from recruiter.

One executive at Google even told me going from SW engineering to Product Manager is a hard path.
Is that true? Being a SW Engineer, Is it hard for me to get in Product Management?

Thoughts? Any advice on how Can I get in Product Management at Google?

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  • New / Product QtBg38
    I think the assumption on Blind is that being technical is the holy grail of PMs. That’s wholly inaccurate. Work on your non-technical skills - your ability to market size, to break down user funnels, to assess impact, and to generally understand how to create and manage a proper roadmap.
    Apr 4, 2018 2
    • Apple UE6j$&
      OP
      I dont think at this day and age, we have engineers solely focusing on lines of code. Most of the engineers do PM work anyway on daily basis.

      The question is not only about engineers not having PM skills but also having PMs not having any technical skills at all.
      Apr 4, 2018
    • Cisco
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      Care to expand on exactly what PM work an engineer is doing?
      Apr 5, 2018
  • Pinterest / Eng cuEN14
    Should be a slam dunk. Eng should have desirable + complimentary skill sets to PM role.
    Apr 3, 2018 8
    • Square SSSJ
      Vast majority I’ve engineers I know lack design thinking and user empathy. How are you supposed to own a product in that case?
      Apr 3, 2018
    • Pinterest / Eng cuEN14
      Good point SSSJ. OP should take note. It’s a slam dunk IF you work on the other stuff.
      Apr 4, 2018
    • Apple UE6j$&
      OP
      Sssh
      Are you saying people who don’t understand technology can make better decisions on the products then?
      Apr 4, 2018
    • Pinterest / Eng cuEN14
      Don’t think that’s intent of @CoreLogic comment. I think good PM shows very rigorous and analytic thought on all aspects of the problem space. Pure eng thinking might be useful for infrastructure pm; for consumer facing stuff, multiple other inputs like business use cases etc prob also useful.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • 8x8 E83
      Good product managers focus on problems. Developers Focus on building solutions. Very few developers can switch to thinking about problems.
      Sep 20, 2018
  • Beachbody / Product
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    Yes, it is difficult being a SW Engineer. How do you expect others to see you as a PM when that isn't how you describe yourself?
    Apr 3, 2018 0
  • Microsoft richpm
    PM in google is not a great role from what I hear. The engineers are the shot callers and that by design is the wrong way to run a business.
    Pick amazon or microsoft if you want influence

    But to answer your main question, engineering is clearly the right background for a PM in the tech industry
    Apr 3, 2018 2
    • New Fernad
      Doesn't microsoft have waaay too may PMs? One of friend's team had the ratio of engineers to PMs= 1:1
      Apr 3, 2018
    • Microsoft richpm
      Yea some teams do. The trick to finding the right role in MS for a PM is to see if the job is project or product management. In MS both are called program manager
      Apr 3, 2018
  • Cloudera khwabs
    Its easier to move to pm in your current company and then move to desired company as pm. However you need patience and some groundwork to position your skills for pm role.
    Apr 3, 2018 0
  • Oath blondies
    Just change your LinkedIn profile to a Product Manager at Apple and wait.
    Apr 3, 2018 4
    • Apple UE6j$&
      OP
      Hahhaa I actually thought of that.
      Apr 3, 2018
    • Oath blondies
      I can tell you that works perfect for recruiters. Once you are in the interviews you can change the story a little and talk about your transition to PM
      Apr 3, 2018
    • Oath blondies
      PM interviews are just frameworks and common sense
      Apr 3, 2018
    • Apple UE6j$&
      OP
      Hahha yeah got to give that a try. My current role is anyway 40% PM And 60% coding
      Apr 3, 2018
  • Apple UE6j$&
    OP
    At least at Apple and Microsoft based on my experience, they prefer engineers turning in to PM. because they have the technical understanding of the product
    Apr 3, 2018 4
    • Beachbody / Product
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      Fyi, Google has reduced the reliance on technical for PM interviews. Focus is on being conversant. Well, that was my experience at least.
      Apr 3, 2018
    • Apple UE6j$&
      OP
      Interesting. Can you give more details on your interview?
      Apr 3, 2018
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    • Microsoft NILT36
      That’s why most Microsoft consumer products failed. No empathy for the users.
      Apr 4, 2018
  • Intel NVǀDǀA
    At Google I think the ratio is about 8:1 SWE:PM. So naturally PM aspirants have fewer opportunities than for SWE. I fucked up an onsite a few years back and haven't got a call back from a recruiter since so I must have really fucked it up LOL. Also, they have a deep pipeline of candidates who are willing to do anything for the job. And also your resume was trashed if you are a white or Asian guy according to the Youtube suer (not shooter as the case today).
    Apr 3, 2018 2
    • Apple UE6j$&
      OP
      Haha
      Apr 3, 2018
    • Google / Product gdyK62
      My product is 60:1 SWE:PM which is totally unsustainable
      Oct 12
  • Microsoft UX_Girl 😘
    Can someone here answer my question here? [Blind] Check out this post! What kind of interview questions can I expect from a Google PM? (Career)
    https://us.teamblind.com/s/EoQheTKX
    Aug 18, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Product Yipp5
    Read Lewis C. Lin's books. Practice his cases using interview buddies or highered coaches. Prepare for at least 15 hours.
    May 26 0
  • Apple UE6j$&
    OP
    I have seen Engineering manager to PM 1:1. But not engineering to PM as 1:1. That would be too much
    Apr 3, 2018 0

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