Query on Workday compensation and level

Ellie Mae ghtwt24
Aug 6 27 Comments

I have been interviewed for a Sr Software Engg position last week at workday and the interview feedback is positive. Current YOE is 12. But the recruiter is saying they can offer me a high Software Engineer III based on the interview feedback. Just wanted to understand from workday folks if this leveling is Ok or they are trying to low ball ?



Workday offer:

Location : Pleasanton, CA
Base : 154k
Stock : 125k in 4 yrs
Sign on : 10k

Total : 195k

Current TC : 165(base +bonus + RSU)

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TOP 27 Comments
  • Workday / Product tdf
    My guess is the interview feedback wasn’t strong enough for a P4 and the panel thinks you’d do great at P3. As others mentioned the TC is within P3 range.
    Aug 7 0
  • Workday market1
    That is what they tell you when you are hired but if you are joining any of the app dev teams, its going to be 75% or more on XO. Consider yourself lucky if you can find a team that does > 40% in traditional technologies. Also sounds like you would qualify for a P4 with 12 years of experience, unless you r interview really didn't go well.
    Aug 6 0
  • Workday Whatday?
    OP. You survived a round of layoffs at Ellie Mae. Why do you want to leave to join a place where layoffs may be coming???

    Workday has already created too much proprietary technology and tools that aren't transferable to other companies. No matter which product team you go, you can't really get away from XO.
    Aug 7 4
    • Ellie Mae ghtwt24
      OP
      Hey thanks for your reply. If I understand correctly workday has atleast 2-3 yrs of growth remaining and Ellie Mae at this juncture can go either way and considering recession or economic slowdown is coming in another 1-2 yrs, there may be further downsizing at Ellie Mae. I am of course weighing 2 more offers that I have and workday is one of them and I am inclined towards workday because of the easy commute and good wlb.
      Aug 7
    • Workday pinkfloyd84
      Whatday, that’s a highly pessimistic and somewhat misleading comment. My team doesn’t do any XO. It’s just Java and Scala with a bit of python scripting here and there. I have seen a lot of internal transfers. So, that’s definitely a possibility for OP later on, if they choose so.
      Also, I don’t see a lay-off coming. In fact, with the rate at which I have seen people getting hired in the last few months, I think the company is quite upbeat and confident about its prospects in near future.
      Aug 8
    • Workday wowonwday
      Pinkfloyd, OP hasn't confirmed if they are joining an apps team or a tools team, so its entirely possible that they will be mostly working on xo.
      Aug 9
    • Workday adaptive2
      Agreed that internal transfer is a possibility, however joining an XO team with an intent of internally transferring in the near future is counter productive for both the team and the employee.
      Aug 9
  • Bank of America akku2
    You will be working on their proprietary language. Think about the future!!!!
    Aug 6 4
    • Ellie Mae ghtwt24
      OP
      Hey Yes, thanks for pointing that out. I already had a long discussion on that with the team and looks that team is pretty diverse in terms of technology. They are not just working on the proprietary language. Btw, do you have any insights on the level and compensation??
      Aug 6
    • Bank of America akku2
      My old boss is with WDAY. He clearly told me about the technology area. The range was around TC $ 230
      Aug 6
    • Workday / Product tdf
      What level is your old boss ?
      Aug 7
    • Workday Zion W
      If your title is Sr software engineer, you will be working on software....aka Java not the proprietary language, XO. Offer seems normal, try to ask for more base
      Aug 8
  • Workday / Product tdf
    My guess is OP doesn’t have much leverage here to renegotiate.
    Aug 9 0
  • Workday rich.dryer
    They are not trying to lowball you. They actually think that's what an appropriate level is. If you don't agree, you don't have to accept. However, I think that is a reasonable TC.
    Aug 8 0
  • Workday cfjc7,$&:4
    In line with p3
    Aug 6 0
  • Abbott / Manufacturing cmmnfn
    Select Compensation from WorkdaySalary where level = 12
    Aug 6 0
  • Ellie Mae ghtwt24
    OP
    Hey..@tdf...after I told it’s difficult for me to accept the offer...the recruiter came back today with an additional 20k added to the offer and weeks time to decide. I am waiting for my other offers now.
    Aug 9 2
    • Workday / Product tdf
      Nice! Congrats. But still a P3 ?
      Aug 9
    • Ellie Mae ghtwt24
      OP
      Yes, it’s still a P3. I told I need sometime to decide.
      Aug 9
  • Workday adaptive2
    20k of RSUs or Base Pay?
    Aug 10 1
    • Ellie Mae ghtwt24
      OP
      Combination of both..
      Aug 10
  • Workday Whatday?
    They are definitely trying to lowball you. The best chance to ask for more money and better title is before you accept the offer.
    Aug 9 0
  • Workday kingDD
    Reject and if you are good enough you shouldn't be p3. Ask to change the level and reject this offer this is insult to offer you p3. Ideally if you crack interview you should get what it is interviewed for ... I would have rejected it straight away. new grads get TC which is around 210
    Aug 9 0
  • Workday pinkfloyd84
    For a P3 it’s a good offer, but you should ask for a P4.
    P3 is fairly junior for a 12 yoe. A good number of P3s are a few years out of college or grad school.
    Aug 8 0
  • Workday Whatday?
    Go to a place where you will build transferable skills over easy commute, "perceived" good culture and WLB. Don't fall into their XO trap!
    Aug 7 0
  • Workday / Eng Rekt_
    Yeah. Just avoid apps if you don't wanna get into XpressO. Tools is all Scala / Java.
    Aug 6 0
  • Workday wowonwday
    Is this an apps team or tools team? If its an apps team, completely agree with akku2 and market1 about working on XpressO
    Aug 6 0

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