Just started my first week at apple and I’m immediately getting a regretful feeling that I made the wrong choice. Prior to this I was at Facebook and a startup, so the culture shift is really killing me. This combined with the commute from Oakland is making me contemplate leaving.
It’s not that I didn’t anticipate apples culture before joining, I just didn’t realize I’d be this miserable with it. We are in a remote building, everyone on my floor are way older w/ families, and there aren’t any communal places to eat lunch, so I eat at my cubicle. I’m so used to such an open culture, asking for whatever I want for my desktop setup, and just being social in general. I knew the commute would be long, but I didn’t anticipate wasting 3 hours of my day in my car and filling up gas every 2-3 days.
Is it bad to consider leaving? I acknowledge that I should have thought more of this through in the first place?
- Tesla 🦖🦕Do what makes you happy as long as you have a back up plan bro. Fuck apple. (Written on an iPhone XS)
- You have something lined up already? If not, maybe consider have another offer in hand before you have this conversation.
Also, talk to your manager. Maybe they can transfer you to a different team?
Also elaborate with your older people comment? Have you tried to talking to them? Do they not talk to you or hang out in office?
- Also, yes, you can bring it up with your manager that the culture does not seem like a fit. Also explain that it’s not the team development culture but more the day-to-day interaction culture, which is geared to more individual privacy based as opposed to communal social based.
- I agree. Can’t complain about commute cause you sorta knew that. And you did not even give it enough time to dislike the commute.
Just say that they misrepresented the culture of the company and it’s not good or bad, just “different” from the one I feel that makes me feel most driven and committed.
- Microsoft TcqR08Isn’t it too early to judge? I would say give it few months time. It wouldn’t look good on your profile.
- You can always say that you worked at Apple and didn’t like the culture. That is not a gap, it’s a choice.
Also during reference check, companies can not mention your performance review. Just your name, designation and the time your worked for them. Unless they really really wanna get sued.
- F5 Networks / Eng WGQH01moreSlide into the 9-5 culture! Build a life outside of work and work to live don’t live to work... sounds like a great opportunity to focus on your personal life and find out who you truly are outside of just being an office drone! These people have the right idea, working is just something that enables them to live their lives... and if that concept/culture doesn’t appeal to you then by all means get out now! It’s easy to get stuck in the comfortable rut and become stagnant in your career in this kind of laid back/non-cutthroat culture. Sounds exactly like F5 where people stick around for 15-20 years because it’s comfortable and easy but end up being senior principles making 250-300k. Instead of the 500k TC they settle for comfortable living and go on extended vacations with their families and are always home for dinner. Again it’s a lifestyle choice and something you should be aware of before you get pulled into a culture that you may not like
- Uber kettleYes you should start interviewing. Just say the commute is killing you and leave it at that. If you live in Oakland, why not work in SF? The biggest red flag for a hiring manager will be your judgment -- why didn't you anticipate the problem. So as long as you have an answer you'll be fine
- Culture adjustments take a little bit of time. I would definitely recommend giving it a few months. I struggled a lot with it during my recent move and also considered leaving. Once I got over the hump, I started feeling a lot better about it. There are definitely some things I still miss, but I'm ultimately glad I stuck it out.
- New / Design Yesterday-How did you not anticipate that commute? That piece is on you.
Wait a couple months and see if you can transfer or find a way to work remotely.
If none of that works out than quit but preferably with a job offer in hand
- Google cVVu88I had a similar experience to you at another company, but I decided to still stay for months to give it a chance. I ended up quitting anyway, and I regret having those months now stuck on my resume (too short to seem like I made a decent impact/I’m always asked why I left after just a few months, too long to remove without a question on the gap). In my case, my gut feeling was correct. Company culture is developed organically from the inside, and it’s pretty much impossible to change at that scale alone.
Besides, there are so many companies in the city. Commute is a legitimate reason to leave.