Quitting a job you just started

Apple LsPq67
Mar 20 38 Comments

5 yoe

Just started my first week at apple and I’m immediately getting a regretful feeling that I made the wrong choice. Prior to this I was at Facebook and a startup, so the culture shift is really killing me. This combined with the commute from Oakland is making me contemplate leaving.

It’s not that I didn’t anticipate apples culture before joining, I just didn’t realize I’d be this miserable with it. We are in a remote building, everyone on my floor are way older w/ families, and there aren’t any communal places to eat lunch, so I eat at my cubicle. I’m so used to such an open culture, asking for whatever I want for my desktop setup, and just being social in general. I knew the commute would be long, but I didn’t anticipate wasting 3 hours of my day in my car and filling up gas every 2-3 days.

Is it bad to consider leaving? I acknowledge that I should have thought more of this through in the first place?

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TOP 38 Comments
  • Do what makes you happy as long as you have a back up plan bro. Fuck apple. (Written on an iPhone XS)
    Mar 20 0
  • Oracle xdokl
    At will employment. Quit
    Mar 20 0
  • Homeaway ppMg64
    You have something lined up already? If not, maybe consider have another offer in hand before you have this conversation.

    Also, talk to your manager. Maybe they can transfer you to a different team?

    Also elaborate with your older people comment? Have you tried to talking to them? Do they not talk to you or hang out in office?
    Mar 20 7
    • Homeaway ppMg64
      Also, yes, you can bring it up with your manager that the culture does not seem like a fit. Also explain that it’s not the team development culture but more the day-to-day interaction culture, which is geared to more individual privacy based as opposed to communal social based.
      Mar 20
    • Apple LsPq67
      OP
      Dude thank you so much for your advice, and when it comes to talking to other companies? What should I tell them? I feel like it is totally understandable to say apple's culture was just not a fit and that the commute made me regret my decision immediately.
      Mar 20
    • Amazon kuchnai
      Just say you didn’t like the work. There was miscommunication about the teams work and agenda and come up with a story
      Mar 20
    • Homeaway ppMg64
      I agree. Can’t complain about commute cause you sorta knew that. And you did not even give it enough time to dislike the commute.

      Just say that they misrepresented the culture of the company and it’s not good or bad, just “different” from the one I feel that makes me feel most driven and committed.
      Mar 20
    • VMware fbvch
      I'm surprised about how you missed this while interviewing especially when it is very important to you!
      Next time don't always talk about projects, goals, architectures in the interview! Always remember you are interviewing the team and assessing them as well!
      Mar 20
  • Microsoft TcqR08
    Isn’t it too early to judge? I would say give it few months time. It wouldn’t look good on your profile.
    Mar 20 3
    • Homeaway ppMg64
      I feel it will be neutral. For one odd job. However, if this a pattern with OP, then it will definitely make a difference.
      Mar 20
    • Twitch RbOv54
      Well... It's even worse if you stayed a few months and then underperformed. Like how are you going to explain either shitty references or a gap in your resume?

      At least now, you just explain that you went on extended vacation and that you didn't actually work at Apple
      Mar 20
    • Homeaway ppMg64
      You can always say that you worked at Apple and didn’t like the culture. That is not a gap, it’s a choice.

      Also during reference check, companies can not mention your performance review. Just your name, designation and the time your worked for them. Unless they really really wanna get sued.
      Mar 20
  • F5 Networks / Eng
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    Slide into the 9-5 culture! Build a life outside of work and work to live don’t live to work... sounds like a great opportunity to focus on your personal life and find out who you truly are outside of just being an office drone! These people have the right idea, working is just something that enables them to live their lives... and if that concept/culture doesn’t appeal to you then by all means get out now! It’s easy to get stuck in the comfortable rut and become stagnant in your career in this kind of laid back/non-cutthroat culture. Sounds exactly like F5 where people stick around for 15-20 years because it’s comfortable and easy but end up being senior principles making 250-300k. Instead of the 500k TC they settle for comfortable living and go on extended vacations with their families and are always home for dinner. Again it’s a lifestyle choice and something you should be aware of before you get pulled into a culture that you may not like
    Mar 20 0
  • Uber kettle
    Yes you should start interviewing. Just say the commute is killing you and leave it at that. If you live in Oakland, why not work in SF? The biggest red flag for a hiring manager will be your judgment -- why didn't you anticipate the problem. So as long as you have an answer you'll be fine
    Mar 20 0
  • Unity 🐥 bok
    You can say there wasn’t a fit in culture and life’s too short to work somewhere you be unhappy at
    Mar 20 0
  • Uber qsdtn
    Wanna give Uber a shot? We don’t have problems you described :)
    Mar 20 7
    • Apple LsPq67
      OP
      Agreed, i didn't negotiate my offer as well as I could have so my shares package was low, and was dealing with a micromanager so just felt like a good time to leave
      Mar 20
    • Uber qsdtn
      TC?
      Mar 20
    • Apple LsPq67
      OP
      Which company?
      Mar 20
    • Uber qsdtn
      Apple? Uber could probably match?
      Mar 20
    • Apple LsPq67
      OP
      160k base, 140k stock, it’s a data engineer position tho
      Mar 20
  • Cisco SLmG30
    Culture adjustments take a little bit of time. I would definitely recommend giving it a few months. I struggled a lot with it during my recent move and also considered leaving. Once I got over the hump, I started feeling a lot better about it. There are definitely some things I still miss, but I'm ultimately glad I stuck it out.
    Mar 20 1
    • Cisco SLmG30
      That being said, breaking with them earlier rather than later will reflect better should you ever want to pursue an an opportunity at Apple again, though they might just blacklist you regardless.
      Mar 20
  • PayPal da anomaly
    Life is too short to waste it in a place that saps your soul
    Mar 20 0
  • New / Design Yesterday-
    How did you not anticipate that commute? That piece is on you.

    Wait a couple months and see if you can transfer or find a way to work remotely.

    If none of that works out than quit but preferably with a job offer in hand
    Mar 20 1
    • Apple LsPq67
      OP
      The commute to Facebook wasn’t bad, I figured this was only 20 min. On top... but it’s turned into a nightmare
      Mar 20
  • Workday ManCatDo
    Don't ask for my opinion of your life. If you want to leave, leave.
    Mar 20 0
  • Google cVVu88
    I had a similar experience to you at another company, but I decided to still stay for months to give it a chance. I ended up quitting anyway, and I regret having those months now stuck on my resume (too short to seem like I made a decent impact/I’m always asked why I left after just a few months, too long to remove without a question on the gap). In my case, my gut feeling was correct. Company culture is developed organically from the inside, and it’s pretty much impossible to change at that scale alone.

    Besides, there are so many companies in the city. Commute is a legitimate reason to leave.
    Mar 20 0
  • Salesforce oaco03
    Buy a Tesla with autopilot 😂
    Mar 20 0
  • SAP ghtuhd
    How about shifting closer to your place of work?
    Mar 20 4
    • Apple LsPq67
      OP
      With all due respect, I hate San Jose! I love the city of Oakland and my rent control is too hard to pass up
      Mar 20
    • Twitch RbOv54
      But but but... San Jose has amazing Asian food...
      Mar 20
    • What’s wrong with Man Jose?
      Mar 20
    • SAP ghtuhd
      Whats wrong with San Jose? Also you don’t need to move to San Jose, you can consider Menlo Park/Palo Alto/Cupertino.
      Mar 20