Race based diversity recruiting?

StockX / Eng GapF22
Jul 10 55 Comments

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  • Microsoft fgeyuxx
    Racist towards Asians
    Jul 10 12
    • Microsoft fgeyuxx
      A lot of privileges. White men are preferred by all races of women. White people do not have pretenses that they are shy or will not speak up or do not have a propensity for leadership. White people are perceived to be american in the us. Asian people are not perceived to be american even if we have been here for several generations. Asian women have a hard time
      To be taken seriously at meetings.
      Jul 11
    • Microsoft fgeyuxx
      As for asian privilege in Asia, absolutely not. White people have white privilege in Asia. Think about - so many white people in Asia that are losers and cannot speak the local language but if an asian person cannot speak English in the us then that person will be an outcast. While people will get paid more in Asia just because they are white.
      Jul 11
    • IBM olkh
      If your own people believe whites are superior there must be some truth to it 🤷🏼‍♂️.
      Jul 11
    • Microsoft fgeyuxx
      Or that’s how history has been created because of the industrial revolution and yes I’ve been to japan more than you.
      Jul 11
    • IBM olkh
      Ok fgeyuxx you just lost all credibility the moment you said you've done x more than an anonymous person on the internet. This is why we can't take Asians seriously
      Jul 11
  • Nutanix / Eng agstzhsb
    It’s counter racism
    Jul 10 12
    • Facebook Sffffft
      Holy shit GapF22 what a racist statement, literally. “Lower the bar?” Lmao You assume white people are inherently at a “higher bar.” Lmao Not true in the fucking least. I’ve never seen more mediocrity than amongst white men I’ve worked with. That’s white privileged by the way: being mediocre as fuck but still getting advantages all throughout your life and having the audacity to think other people aren’t as good as you just because the system is tilted in your favor. Laughable.
      Jul 11
    • StockX / Eng GapF22
      OP
      1. I’m not white. So let’s cool your jets.
      2. If the URM candidates were just as strong as a whole, how would there be the disparity of talent?
      Jul 11
    • Google / Eng OmgS48
      Sff...t - He mentioned "an instance". There is no assumption of inherently higher bar.
      Jul 11
    • Facebook Sffffft
      You can be another race and still be racist GapF22 so insert whatever race you are cause that was wild as shit.
      Jul 11
    • StockX / Eng GapF22
      OP
      You’re attacking unrelated points of my argument here and attacking my character instead of arguing. You also turned a question of race into a point of “white male privilege mediocrity”.

      In the instance described above, there was evidence of lowering the bar for minority’s in at least one case to promote diversity hiring. My question was and still is, what advantage does the company have for lowering the bar in any instance to increase the count of diversity hires?
      Jul 12
  • Oracle Dafuq 🐧
    "A person should not be judged by the color of their skin but by how many leetcode hards they can do in 40mins. Oh and bonus points if you aren't white indian or chinese! "-Mark Zuckerberg
    Jul 11 2
    • Also — “We like to hire people in their 20s. Young people are just smarter!”

      -Zuckerberg (yes he actually said that)
      Jul 11
    • I was definitely NOT smarter in my 20s.
      Not even close.
      Jul 14
  • Lyft done2
    Bay tech is fake tolerant it becomes intolerant
    Jul 10 0
  • Ironically white Americans are becoming a minority in most of FAANG and Bay Area tech companies.

    Anyway, it’s racist to discriminate based on race. Period.

    The way to improve diversity is to source from diverse talent pools. For example, go to African American fraternities/sororities or professional groups (Black Girls Who Code), stuff like that.
    Jul 11 2
    • Akamai Technologies VmQQ44
      Preferencing race above all is leading to much weaker hires which impacts the company overall. Companies who do not buy into this BS will automatically have a competitive advantage.
      Jul 11
    • @akamai.

      In that case I really hope these giant lefty tech companies keep diversity hiring and diversity promoting.

      It will make then weaker and shittier companies in the short and long term.

      Hopefully it will hasten their demise.

      Better companies will rise up and replace them.
      Jul 14
  • Indeed Scrub 🧽
    Where's the "It's racist." option?
    Jul 11 0
  • StockX / Eng GapF22
    OP
    Why is having racial diversity at a company even beneficial? Obviously I understand an inclusive environment. What inherit value does hiring people simply because they are an underrepresented minority add?
    Jul 11 3
    • Lyft done2
      It Attempts to obsolve weak people of Misguided guilt
      Jul 11
    • Nutanix / Eng agstzhsb
      Prettt much^^
      Jul 11
    • Assuaging white guilt.
      Jul 14
  • New DzrU11
    “In court documents filed in January, he alleges Google's "quota-based hiring practices" systematically instructed recruiters to "purge" eligible Caucasian and Asian candidates from potential hiring pools”

    “He also alleges Google subjected him "to unsubstantiated performance reviews, performance criticisms and [terminated] his employment." Wilberg was fired in November 2017.”

    Ex-Google Recruiter Sues, Alleging Policies Discriminate Against White And Asian Men
    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/02/590346891/ex-google-recruiter-sues-alleging-policies-discriminate-against-white-and-asian-
    Jul 11 0
  • Reverse discrimination makes no sense at all. If there was true equal opportunity in the workplace you wouldn’t need diversity hires. You can google any major and minor company’s website and you see no minorities in leadership. Is that accidental or is it deliberate? Then if discrimination is intentional then so should diversity.
    Jul 12 6
    • PayPal MTSer
      Another Jordan Peterson fanboy...sigh...
      Jul 13
    • Lyft done2
      I take that to mean you don’t have a credible counter argument.
      Jul 13
    • PayPal MTSer
      You should take that and believe we have seen the videos where he uses that same argument word by word. Wether or not we agree with it the point was that you are not original nor have shown any evidence of individual intelligence
      Jul 13
    • Lyft done2
      Look I can assure you I have no idea what video your referring to. It’s certainly not an original thought not original to Jordan either. It’s such a basic deductive reasoning that any intelligent person would expect to understand
      Jul 13
    • Being in corporate America for 20 years. Trust me there is neither equality in outcome or opportunity. I have seen that non-minorities are promoters hired on potential (I think we should give them a shot), minorities are promoted or hired (if at all) is based on experience. They would have already done the job somewhere else, went to an Ivy League school or really have proven results. I don’t have to be convinced this happens. I see it every day
      Jul 16
  • Lyft done2
    It’s reverse discrimination full stop. It’s intolerant and hateful
    Jul 12 0
  • Bloomberg cg_ny
    It’s good for you too, not just the minorities. The more women and minority employees work on at team or at a company, the more women and minorities will be interested in joining your team/company. So you now have access to more talent.
    Plus it’s good for the team culture in my experience.
    Jul 11 3
    • StockX / Eng GapF22
      OP
      Are women a race?
      Jul 11
    • Bloomberg cg_ny
      Just another example. What I said applies to both race and gender based diversity.
      Jul 11
    • StockX / Eng GapF22
      OP
      Why does current amount of minorities imply access to more talent? It’s seems like a decently large assumption that more diversity hires would have a domino effect. If true, I can see how this would add business value.
      Jul 12
  • Twitter WcHJ58
    It's there to reduce wages by increasing the job pool
    Jul 11 0
  • PayPal MTSer
    Companies want to hire the best to compete against everyone else in the world. India has 4 times the population of the US, China’s is a little bit higher.

    Let’s be VERY generous and assume for one second that the traits/skills needed to be a good engineer are equally distributed amongst the world’s population.

    Now let’s extrapolate this data to ethnicity and ask ourselves; what company would seriously consider competing against the entire world with just a fraction of its population?

    Shouldn’t one feel special if they don’t feel racially represented in their workplace?
    Jul 11 0
  • These comments proves the needs for it! Every time diversity is brought up the assumption is made that unqualified minorities will be hired. I see every day unqualified majority hired. You can go to every company and see that systematically minorities are intentionally left out of Sr Management. Why would you oppose minorities at the table unless you had a problem with minorities
    Jul 12 1
    • StockX / Eng GapF22
      OP
      I don’t oppose minorities at the table and am not questioning companies initiatives to encourage and support an inclusive work environment. I’m challenged the instances where companies are willing to pay more, hire easier, make a recruiting target of, and favor minorities on the sole fact that they are a minority.
      Jul 12