“Redundant” and weird manager

New / Eng Rooooofl
Nov 20, 2018 38 Comments

Me and a few of my team members have noticed that my manager is weird, in the sense that very often he likes to jump into a discussion in the most useless and redundant way. A couple examples that really happened on Slack:

- Me and a few other folks are discussing in a channel the best way to perform a test for feature X, and we’re going through the details and action plan. The last message being one from Alex, a coworker, saying “Ok, I will run the memory leak tests right now”. Out of the blue, the manager writes “hey Alex can you run the memory leak tests for feature X”? We’re like: “mmm, that’s literally what we just agreed upon one message above”. He clearly read that message because his question was super specific and targeted, but we can’t explain why he did it.

- Me and a few other folks are working on a high priority customer issue and are discussing in a channel the progress, more specifically the best way to communicate something to the customer. We just agreed on how to proceed exactly, so the last message on slack is from Albert, a coworker, saying “ok I’m sending the customer email right now asking how to reproduce the issue”. Out of the blue, the manager writes “hey Albert can you send the customer email asking how to reproduce?”. Once again, this doesn’t make any sense to us, that’s literally what we just agreed upon and what he just repeated without adding anything useful.

This happens a lot, it seems like he waits until the team reaches a conclusion or agreement on its own, and then proceeds to ask the exact same thing, literally a few seconds after everything has been discussed and decided already.

Have you ever seen something like this?

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TOP 38 Comments
  • Yes, my fellow Indian managers.
    Nov 20, 2018 9
    • Nvidia Artart
      He micromanages only the credits lol
      Nov 20, 2018
    • New / Eng ////
      It may look weird, but that's cultural difference. Indians do not get western humor at all for some reason, for example.
      Nov 20, 2018
    • I had a American born Indian manager who used to do this. Fucking annoying.
      Nov 20, 2018
    • New / Eng Rooooofl
      OP
      I’ve never had this experience before. All my previous managers were talented and most importantly they never felt useless to me, they always provided me value either on the technical mentoring side, or on the business context side. This guy instead... it’s become a recurring joke in our team, you can see we all giggle when he writes something.
      Nov 20, 2018
    • Amazon 123raj
      You're alone OP. I've thinking of opening a twitter troll account for this kinda shit 😁
      Nov 21, 2018
  • Amazon ☻☻
    Is he Indian?
    Nov 20, 2018 4
    • New / Eng Rooooofl
      OP
      Yes he is, 101%
      Nov 20, 2018
    • Amazon 123raj
      Leave the team or the virus will infect you too.
      Nov 21, 2018
    • Facebook lulz1
      He is sending a dated, written request for work item for HR reasons. Maybe they’re evaluating that employee critically and manager wants to collect evidence of slacking or good work.

      Source: I’m a manager
      Nov 21, 2018
    • New / Eng Rooooofl
      OP
      No, he does this with everybody, the target is random. As I said the message follows the original one within seconds, so it’s not even he’s trying to consolidate. He’s just a weirdo.
      Nov 21, 2018
  • New / Sales LadyCloser
    I’ve worked with several managers like this, all Indian. They come from a hierarchical leadership structure which dictates a lot of their behavior. We’ve dealt with this by asking as a group why they do this behavior and providing the examples. ((If any one person asks, it can be seen as an attack to be retaliated against)) once they see how it’s perceived, they can change.
    The reason is just like the others said—The group or person is being held accountable. It is also a strong acknowledgement by the manager that the group came to the right conclusion. In both ways the behavior is a compliment to how your group operates. Your manager trusts the conclusion you all come to. He should just say “This is a great idea. Can we accomplish this by X date and discuss?”
    Nov 21, 2018 3
    • New / Eng Rooooofl
      OP
      Wow, thank you so much for your reply. Blind is not just made of trolls after all!
      Nov 21, 2018
    • New / Sales LadyCloser
      Managing your manager is one of the hardest skills to learn.
      Nov 21, 2018
    • Market Track pIxL65
      How do people which such poor people skills become managers in the first place?
      Nov 21, 2018
  • Twitter
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    hdhhjmore
    So your manager basically has his boss hat on, so now that he is a boss he is following up on items people said they will do. So whatever you guys are saying you will do are now your deadlines. Now get back to work.
    Nov 20, 2018 4
    • New / Eng Rooooofl
      OP
      That is just utter fucking bullshit, what the hell are you talking about you fucking moron?

      I’ve had plenty of good managers in the past, and they were providing value to the team by 1) sheltering it from bullshit 2) providing valuable context to the team.

      Never I’ve observed a man who just copies and pastes the previous message from the convo and turns it into a question. That is not wearing a boss hat.
      Nov 20, 2018
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      hdhhj

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      What is bullshit here? Are you fucking Naive?
      Your manager is the real moron which you will discover in few months. I have had such managers micromanaging before. He probably just checks the conversation and follows up asking whether people did their tasks.
      Nov 20, 2018
    • New / Eng Rooooofl
      OP
      Ok I might have misunderstood your message @twitter. Sorry sometimes I have a bad temper :)
      Nov 20, 2018
    • Facebook Beadwsb
      This is a hilarious exchange
      Nov 21, 2018
  • eBay JubLt49
    When you're dumb but still need participation points on the group project
    Nov 20, 2018 1
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      hdhhj

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      hdhhjmore
      No, it's more like he would take all the credit.
      Nov 21, 2018
  • Facebook lulz1
    He is sending a dated, written request for work item for HR reasons. Maybe they’re evaluating that employee critically and manager wants to collect evidence of slacking or good work.

    Source: I’m a manager
    Nov 21, 2018 4
    • Ratshit
      Nov 21, 2018
    • New / Product Hunt-er
      lulz1 really? Sending a dated m, written item for HR reasons? If that’s the case it’s basically spying on your employee. How that can be right?
      Nov 23, 2018
    • Facebook lulz1
      Not spying, leaving paper trails around. It won’t be looked at unless the employee threatens to sue the company for some b.s. like discrimination or wrongful termination etc it could be positive too - manager might be collecting positive evidence of work to better answer calibration questions
      Nov 23, 2018
    • That is not how you collect evidence. Please work with HR. They will teach you some sanity.
      Nov 23, 2018
  • Oracle of · Nada
    This thread has actually given good perspective, thanks for posting. Never worked under an old fashion bureaucracy like this, will now know to recognize for what it is. Thanks again, Blind!
    Nov 21, 2018 0
  • New / Product Hunt-er
    Have you considered the possibility it’s actually not the manager but a bot? An AI bot that understands conclusion and follows up? I would ask the manager) either way you will find out))
    Nov 21, 2018 0
  • Oracle of · Nada
    Sounds.... Extremely stupid.

    Is he new, and is your skip similar from what you can tell? If yes on first and no on second, I'd ask skip for guidance in how to handle. Diplomatic approach, spin it as maybe maybe manager's trying to create urgency or something, but you're confused about it and don't understand how to bring this up without accidentally sounding confrontational

    If manager is not new or skip is the same way, you'll need to be more sneaky and manage up. I'd avoid directly confronting manager about it before talking to skip, which in this case isn't really an option. This is because the manager's current behavior makes me not trust him to have that conversation directly without risk to your career. So instead will need to think of how to make him feel important about his ability to delegate to the extent that he stops. Talk to him and praise his mentorship and trust or something
    Nov 20, 2018 0
  • Uber buzzbazz
    Your manager sounds super green and like they are terror stricken to think for themselves
    Nov 20, 2018 0
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    hdhhj

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    hdhhjmore
    No big deal, I was just throwing a joke for which you probably didn't had cultural context.
    Nov 20, 2018 0
  • VideoAmp civitar7
    They includes every Indian I suppose ?
    Nov 21, 2018 0
  • Amazon 123raj
    Hey OP! Have you ever seen something like this?
    Nov 21, 2018 0

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