Joined maybe 8 months ago. At the time I felt underpaid due to my company’s low performing stock and my Google offer was a lot higher than I expected (~240k for L3). At my previous company I had a lot of responsibilities and ownership, and I felt like I was on a fast track for promos. Here I feel like I haven’t learned anything since joining. It seems all my team does is maintain a legacy system whose codebase is an absolute mess. Most of my days are spent cleaning up legacy code or slowly rolling out experiments to deprecate some old feature. It’s killing me. I asked my manager today if all this would at least help me get promoted and he indicated that it would look good but I’d need to be designing or coding to hit L4. The few projects needing design just go to our senior guys. I’ve been looking for other teams to join but I’m not seeing anything I’m interested in that’s looking for L3s. Really not sure if I should leave Google or try to find a better team, but all the teams Im seeing that need L3s look like the same legacy grunt work :/
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- If u want action, join FB. Easier to get promo to e5 because there won’t be shortage pf projects. I am considering going back some day although my amazon team is a lot more professional and chill
- Facebook / Eng pddddrrrmoreFB is so bloated with people you won’t own anything decent. Code quality at FB - your eyes will be bleeding for a year. Systems design or architecture - these things don’t exist. You are going to be pressured to ship crap, tons of crap. You will get promoted to E5 probably faster than G. But it’s gonna be sweaty 2-3 years.Jun 18 14
- 1yoe lol. Why would senior people hand over the fun stuff to you? You’re a kid and you’re worthless and replaceable at this point. Prove your worth. Millennials, so entitled. Still laughing. Sorry, funny because it’s true
- I think there is some truth to @J Damores comment. I work at a small dev shop and our "best" front end dev just left, so the next best guy, knowing we couldn't afford to lose a second FE dev, went to management and demanded a 10% raise immediately and 10% more in three months. He's got like 1 year of professional experience, but he reads all of these FAANG TC's on Blind and expects to be worth that.
I came to the tech industry from the food industry and the mentality there is "show me your work and loyalty and I'll give you a raise" to the tech where its like "I'm not happy with my salary, guess I'll go shop around". It creates an industry that teaches instant gratification instead of hard work and dedication to substantiate such compensation.
Anyway, original commenter is right. It sounds very millennial of you to be expecting seniority in your first few years working professionally. In any other industry you would get laughed out the door. 🤷🏻♂️ But what do I know?Jun 19 4
- @blah, if it makes you feel better you're making double my salary. haha. I know it's hard to be satisfied in this industry because you see these huge TC's, but I look at your TC and am like "daaammmmnnn", so it's all relative. Just keep working away, I mean getting in the door is the hardest part.Jun 19 3
- New cTlj55I'm kinda in the same boat. Joined FB from a smaller company, and I feel like a chisel is slowly chipping off small parts of my soul everyday. I'm currently in the interview process with several startups.
Hang in there
- I don't see why you should regret joining Google. You now have Google on your resume, worst case just leave Google in a year.
- Google curiousdudAlrighty, long time Googler here. Sorry to hear about your experience. Let me offer some advice:
First of all congratulations on getting in. As you know there are lot of people who dream of getting into Google. I am not telling this to show off or out of pride but to put things in perspective.
Most of the people in Google are here for long term. Do not expect great innovative projects from day 1. Depending on the product maturity and state, different teams have different proportions of legacy-to-innovative/new projects. For example, when I worked in youtube, there was lot of legacy work, but i was able to demonstrate more impact due to scale. But in my current team, i do build a lot of new cool infrastructure, but the product is struggling. So my impact is limited.
My suggestion would be continue in team for some team with patience and get some decent rating (Meets or above) and switch to a team that is in early stages (cloud, stadia etc). Google highly encourages team switches to allow cross pollination of ideas. But remember that every team will have non-zero house keeping work (cleanups, oncall, refactors etc).
As I said, most of the Googlers are here for long run. It is very common to see Googlers with 10+ yoe. If you are patient, it is very rewarding :)
- I had similar feeling when I joined Microsoft . If you are not happy, change your team. That might /might not work but at least u will try. Not all teams are same. Landing a job at google is not easy, so don't let go of it easily. If you are still unsatisfied, change company. Meanwhile, take some time to relax and start a new hobby. I started bodybuilding when I joined MS as my work was not challenging and I had plenty of free time.
- I am at Microsoft only. My previous team had a crappy culture with menial and boring work. I had to change my team within few months after joining and it's better now. My new team is more supportive and the work is challenging too. I, however, had a hard time in the initial months.
- Paychex dunder1Imagine doing exactly that in a lower company and getting paid less than half. Help me if you can please
- eBay oldgradsMaybe you could start with 20% project see if there is a project you are interested in. Btw, which type of project you are looking for? I know cloud ai has some good stuff to work on
- Amazon lpstrongSorry to hear this, but Google is a great company to have on resume. Perhaps get a mentor to help you identify or propose more impactful and interesting work. Earn your manager’s trust so that s/he hands you the next juicy project. It makes sense to stick around for at least two years. In the worst case just free up time to learn.
- New WaVi5195% of FANG is maintenance....5% of innovation drivers are already taken by long time insiders.
Google pays you 20% more for 100% more work/competition...They are just lucky that Fed is boosting risk assets for extended period of time and happens to have GOOG rise significantly.
But you have no other alternatives as a digital serf.