Relocate to bangalore?

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Oct 23 81 Comments

Currently work at one of the FAANGs. Tired of the visa situation being indian. Current TC for wife and me is ~450K in bay area.

Recent trip to india, interviewed for a few companies in bangalore and have one offer for ~1 crore ($140K) being cash heavy. Wife should easily find a job paying well say $50000 and expenses in india will be low.

would you relocate to be with family? i am not particularly attached to lifestyle in usa and only here for TC and future kid.

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  • Amazon bstand
    Let me give you my 2 cents. Lengthy answer. My kid is just 8 months and is a US citizen. Will be relocating to India in 2 months. Moving out exactly for the same reason. All set. Way too much tension to handle visa issues every 3 years. H1 is restrictive and cannot do anything else. Before joining Amzn, I was with a smaller company who let me work in India for 6 months. That was an experiment I did before finally deciding to move back after joining Amzn. US is a great destination for engineers. Agreed but as you age things do get messier here as well. An avg American struggles the same way as an avg Indian to meet ends. In my case I made sure I make certain adjustments like traveling to office real early. I was in office around 7:30 AM. I always made sure I left by 3:30 PM. I used my own car and the travel time was just 20 mins each way EVERY single day. So traffic issue was solved. I rented a pretty expensive 2 BHK from prestige. They literally took care of all the stuffs needed like water issues/electricity etc. Both me and wife would be roughly making 5.1 lakhs/month in hand after taxes. Trust me when you earn more than an avg person, life in India is not all that bad as is portrayed by ppl here. The best part is we can get maids to do most of the household stuff. They come 3 times a week and most things are taken care. My monthly expenses could be around 55-60K including rent. As my kid is a US citizen it’s easy for him to go back to the US later for education. About schooling in banaglore - Honestly there are schools which are as good as the ones in the US. The fees are high for such schools. Ranges between 1.5 - 5 lakhs/yr. Really good ones start at 2. I have been in the US for 10 yrs now. As I have seen both sides of the world I wss in a better position to make decisions. If you are getting insane salary in India, things only get better. In case you don’t like it, keep your options open. You are in Amzn and it is very easy to switch teams and relocate to a foreign country later. As far as kids are concerned, they already have their US passport. They can go back for education and work. People talk about high quality education in US but that’s overrated. I am from a govt. school. I started studying English only from 5th grade. Came to the US in 2010 for masters. Though not a topper but had pretty good scores. If I can do well in my life, my kids who are born in a far more financially sound family can donit as well! You have seen both sides. Only you can decide what you want.
    Oct 23 11
    • Amazon bstand
      @cat-food - honestly depends on the team. I work for aurora. They are still setting up teams in Bangalore. Most of them are people who are relocating. Their job is to hire and grow the org in Bangalore. There is big push from the top to expand aws teams in India now. I would say it is good in my team but as with any company anywhere in the world all depends on your manager and how he sets goals. PM me if you need more details
      Oct 24
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      Thank you - that’s sounds good and Bangalore feels like the Wild West right now with software engineering jobs and demand.
      Oct 24
    • Google / Eng
      canterran

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      canterranmore
      Do you plan for the kids to eventually work in the US? Since they're US citizens, they have to pay US income tax regardless of where they live/work.
      Oct 26
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      Guess it depends upon what they will want to do over time. If taxation becomes a problem down the lane depending upon where they live, an option might be to take up Indian citizenship.
      Oct 26
    • @ cat-food - You're doing great in life! Could u share ur career journey pls? As in started with what and progression?
      Nov 15
  • Intel zfnu
    Do you have a kid ? If yes, it will be very hard for you to go back voluntarily
    Oct 23 10
    • Intel zfnu
      Yeah, I respect your views. I really do. Best of luck with whatever you decide. There are many ways to be happy :)
      Oct 23
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      And I respect yours. Hope you are happy here and everything works well for you :-)
      Oct 23
    • Yelp JMP2
      wow look at these people arguing like grown ups. kudos to both of you!
      Oct 24
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      Lol, you call that arguing.
      Oct 24
    • Yelp JMP2
      yeah, talking would have been better. or having a nice conversation
      Oct 24
  • Google bUPI22
    It's not just about money and apartments and savings.

    My 2 cents - dealing with a corrupt cop, dealing with SC/ST idiots given too many privileges over a common citizen (eg: you can be put in jail without BAIL!! if they file a complain against you for abusing), dealing with idiots who have no civic sense, dealing with politicians who are basically gundas, stupid reservations, nothing digitalized, corruption everywhere etc.

    Hence I would never go back to that shithole country. My future generation would be much happier here. Amongst civilized people.
    Oct 24 10
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      8ish years in the corporate world.
      Oct 24
    • Amazon bstand
      @cat-food...would also recommend trying to interview with some new companies like Cohesity, Rubrik, uipath...they beat everyone in terms of pay..
      Oct 24
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      @bstand - that’s good, what would be a good band for a engineering manager or senior manager?
      Oct 24
    • Adobe adobebest
      Cat-food what is the split?
      Oct 24
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      Approx 60L base + 40L signing/stocks
      Oct 24
  • New / Finance CmdRiker
    Raising a kid in India, with all the pollution, crime, and poor sanitation is not worth it, for me at least. To each their own.
    Oct 23 4
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      Except pollution doesn’t money solve for others?
      Oct 23
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      Also seems like there are good schools if you find the right ones in Bangalore.
      Oct 23
    • New / Finance CmdRiker
      Sure, money will solve a lot of those problems on the surface level, I think. I am of the view that raising kids in any major city in India is tough. Also, I believe it matters whether or not you've got a daughter. The stark reality is that girls and women are subject to much more dangerous environment in India than boys and men. Do you have a daughter? Also, when was the last time you lived in India as an adult?
      Oct 24
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      Good point, we have a daughter who is 3 years old. Last we lived in India was about 8-10 years ago.
      Oct 24
  • Walmart hawayeudya
    Helllll yeah!!! Dang ..almost $200k in india.
    Oct 23 0
  • Yahoo / Eng KhfTe
    I am triggered on your implied sexism in statement: "Current TC for wife and me is ~450K in bay area. Recent trip to india, interviewed for a few companies in bangalore and have one offer for ~1 crore ($140K) being cash heavy. Wife should easily find a job paying well say $50000 and expenses in india will be low."

    1. So you compare your TC and wife TC in India. But you mention combined TC in the US. Why not mention combined approx TC in India?

    2. Why do you think so low about your wife on the TC scale? Why demean her abilities?

    3. First ask her about moving to India before asking on the blind. And then mention all of the conversation details on blind.
    Oct 24 2
    • Intel qgte
      Don’t get triggered, there is nothing sexist about his post.
      Oct 24
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      @KhfTe your ignorance and assumptions are very obvious to me. If you think that I would post this message on an anonymous forum without consulting my better half, you are mistaken.
      Oct 25
  • Oracle swit
    Which company ?
    Oct 23 1
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      Amazon, L6 SDM
      Oct 23
  • Expedia Group / Eng plsreferme
    Europe won't pay that high.

    IMO, once your wife is pregnant, take time off work and stay in the US on B1 visa 3 months prior baby's birth.
    That way your baby will be US citizen by birth.
    Oct 24 3
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      Don’t think that is legal.
      Oct 24
    • Google / Eng
      canterran

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      canterranmore
      It is legal (for the baby). You might get in trouble though.
      Oct 26
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      Interestingly I had to read about birth tourism and find this out. Good point.
      Oct 26
  • Red Hat dnshf
    What bout ur investments and 401k here?
    Oct 24 1
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      Will keep 401K as is and let it grow with the intent to use it for retirement or kids education. We are in no need to divest our other investments in the US, so I will like keep it the same to hedge against rupee inflation.
      Oct 24
  • Quicken Loans thinkaH
    How's wlb in India?
    Oct 24 1
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      I am curious as well.
      Oct 24
  • Amazon / Design
    Pixels13

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    Pixels13more
    I have friends who also are considering a similar move. The thing you need to really consider is how Bangalore will solve its systemic problems as the population continues to grow, the traffic gets epically even worse, and the resources are even further strained. The answer is usually walling yourself in, living essentially a disconnected life from the rest of the outside world.
    Oct 23 1
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      Agreed, maybe once we have enough money to FIRE we will move to a tier-2 city. Expect that to take another 5-7 years.
      Oct 23
  • Adyen dutchie
    Why don’t you consider Singapore?
    Oct 23 0
  • Adobe adobebest
    Cat-food amazon l6 offer is a very good offer. You should grab it.
    Oct 25 4
    • Microsoft / Product BlueSmith
      By the what?
      Oct 25
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      @adobe - are you saying it’s top of band?
      Oct 25
    • Adobe adobebest
      Yes sort of. It's a great offer for 8 yoe. Would you mind sharing your US TC?
      Oct 26
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      Great, it’s ~$300K.
      Oct 26
  • LinkedIn tochuthere
    Together you earn $900k in the bay? After taxes that'd be ~$500k. Say your expenses are $150k (house + kid + eating out), you'd have saved $350k. That's much more than what you'd earn in India together.
    I say ride this wave till you have all the kids you wanted to have and get promoted at work and then move.
    Oct 24 1
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      I wish, nope we will together hit $500K this year. We save about 150K a year.
      Oct 24
  • Google Mznznnznzb
    Add poll
    Oct 23 1
  • Deloitte bsLi30
    Join Deloitte AMS, everybody is Indian there
    Oct 23 0
  • Oracle swit
    Have a kid and then move ?
    Oct 24 2
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      We have a 3 year old already, not sure if we should wait for next one.
      Oct 24
    • Oracle swit
      I am in a similar boat. But we are thinking of having another kid and then trying to move. You can decide if you want to have 2 kids or 1. Me personally see good upside to moving back if you have good savings. Your quality of life will be much better with all the help and maids
      Oct 24
  • Google IPhoneBest
    Your kids might want to live in US/Singapore. India for you and US/SG for kids.
    Oct 24 2
    • LinkedIn tochuthere
      Unless they are 5+, it doesn't matter where they want to live, for parents to make a decision.
      Oct 24
    • Groupon cat-food
      OP
      I agree, our belief is that the kids adapt easily and it’s the adults that struggle.
      Oct 24
  • Deloitte bsLi30
    I got my first trip experience to India for work.
    Common sense piece of advice: stay in America rather than that mess which is going no where
    (Notice I am not American)
    Nov 8 1
  • Google morni431
    Not enough options. What about Australia, Japan, or other countries?
    Nov 1 1
    • Groupon xyzxyz321
      Australia, NZ seem isolated and not too many travel opportunities. We would prefer English speaking countries if not for India.
      Nov 1

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