Removing per country cap in GC

Fiat Chrysler xcleet
Feb 7 37 Comments

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/02/07/h-1b-bills-introduced-in-house-senate-to-ax-per-country-green-card-limits/amp/

Looks like they have introduced removing per country cap in green card processing. Do you think this bill will turn into a law?

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  • Microsoft (((($))))
    American don’t care. Most of the visa holders oppose it. Only Indian visa holders love it and may benefit from it. Chinese visa holders are most likely neutral, given their still reasonable wait time of 4 years. So if it will become a law, it will most likely become an Indian law, not a US law.
    Feb 71
    • Apple CRNY
      I think Chinese that did their homework wouldn’t be neutral. The backlog of India is so bad that it would actually increase the wait time for Chinese in EB2.
      Feb 7
  • Facebook bl@ckmamba
    Why would you want to flood the US with Indians?
    Feb 70
  • Google ImhN84
    It would be fun if they prioritize based on pay.
    Feb 79
    • Proofpoint / Engfoodtruckj
      It's how it should be. This way consulting companies don't get as many greencards.
      Feb 7
    • Apple CRNY
      Then all GC will be for tech companies. Don’t think this would be the right thing.
      Feb 7
    • Proofpoint / Engfoodtruckj
      It is the right thing. Other areas have plently of US native talent. STEM skills are in high demand and not marketing, business, arts, etc.
      Feb 7
    • Google ImhN84
      Yeah i dont think it is right thing. But it may pay more for immigrants !
      Feb 7
    • Proofpoint / Engfoodtruckj
      What do you think is the right thing? The whole purpose of the skill based immigration system is to bring in people that have skills that are in short supply in the US.
      Feb 7
    • SAP cty543
      Salary and age would be fun.
      Feb 7
    • Apple CRNY
      So, I don’t think US has sufficient talent in business, just look at how many C-levels are non US natives.
      Second, even if you take STEM into consideration, all professors are fucked even if they are the most prestigious one that just don’t mind money but want to do their own research in US.
      Third, I graduated from CMU, and basically the system you proposed will only let people accept offers from CA, and all other companies out of CA (maybe excluding Seattle) gets fucked, and I know a lot of talents working in Uber and Google Pittsburgh that just like PGH.
      And, by pay, you are basically kicking out anyone that wants to join startups, which is a strong tech boost in the last decade.
      It only shows how arrogant people who get paid well are.
      Feb 8
    • Google / Engcatburglar
      Being salary based is true capitalism
      Feb 8
    • Google ImhN84
      Well, as CRNY, pointed out pay is determined by many things other than skill set of the person. So, it is going to have bias towards certain location and certain occupation which are not necessarily the best thing for US. But it is probably something that we can consider as part of immigration process in some way. I know at least two countries that have salary threshold for top priority in the permanent residency. It also allows corporate to just pay more if they feel the person is important enough for the employer to purse permanent work permit.
      Feb 8
  • LinkedIn helping
    Population weighted country cap is the most fair solution to all countries.
    All the people saying "don't flood with Indians", remember that you flood this country in the past as well.
    Feb 82
    • It's not fair when an unborn child in Norway can get a green card faster than an Indian who has been in US for a decade legally. Please explain how this is fair? Current estimates for Indians is 152 years wait time to get a green card. The system is broken and needs to be fixed.
      Feb 9
    • LinkedIn helping
      You just restated the problem. I suggested a solution. Did you read my post?
      Feb 9
  • New / Biz Dev
    cable

    NewBiz Dev

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    cablemore
    Hopefully not because I've seen how Indians only recruit other Indians many times. Also in case of layoffs they will fire other nationalities first stating "if I fire fellow Indian she/he has to move back while you locals have a better chance here"
    Feb 121
    • Oracle Cersei
      If that’s the case you should complain to HR. There is an element of truth to this but it’s not specific to indians. Chinese prefers Chinese, Russians prefers Russians etc. halo effect. I think lot of Indians are preferred because they are stuck in backlog. Who doesn’t want an indentured servant?
      Feb 12
  • Fiat Chrysler xcleet
    OP
    What you're missing is that new regulations on H1B could take care of 'skills' and 'talent' need. The regulations will also help get rid of sweat shop IT consultants. What should remain is truly exceptional individuals with unique skills and qualifications who shouldn't have to wait decades for a green card. These individuals are most likely going to quit and open their businesses as soon as they get their GC.
    Feb 83
    • Oracle gV45dx
      If you remove the sweatshops then you don’t need to worry about gc cap. You guys are in this mess precisely for that.
      Feb 8
    • Fiat Chrysler xcleet
      OP
      How do you undo that though. I understand some people abused the system. But how do you recover. Also, not all of us intended to abuse it. Some of us chose not to abuse it, but we are suffering from the consequences. Why should we suffer, if we followed the spirit of the law and the law itself.
      Feb 9
    • @gV45dx your suggestion is totally correct.

      But the question is “how “ we do that ? We don’t have any voting power in the US.
      Feb 10
  • Oracle gV45dx
    Keep dreaming
    Feb 73
    • Fiat Chrysler xcleet
      OP
      Pls elaborate. The system is broken. Though this particular administration (regime) seems a bit whacky, it might force the legislature to make moves and fix the employment based immigration part.
      Feb 7
    • Oracle gV45dx
      The system is broken, true. But by Indians not US law. You misused the law. If the cap is removed, US will be flooded with Indians. Nobody wants that except you maybe.
      Feb 8
    • Oracle Cersei
      How did indians misused the law? Are you suggesting that uscis and dol are not doing their jobs?
      Feb 12
  • Comcast / EngHoho90
    Yes: immigrants
    No: insecure Americans
    So please don't vote. Makes no sense
    Feb 71
    • Synchrony Nebula99
      As immigrant waiting for gc, I vote no. What was your logic again?
      Feb 8
  • Okta doomsday
    Highly doubt it. There is no leverage. House is all about give and take
    Feb 70
  • Oracle Cersei
    Good Bill but chances of passing are low. Why? Because it makes it easier for backlogged folks to switch jobs, start companies, start business etc. Right now employers are very happy to have employees stuck in backlog. They know backlogged employees won’t complain and chances of switching to competitors is low. Lot of consulting companies and immigration lawyers will be lobbying against it. Is it good for all workers yes but not so for all employers. Best protection that can be given to American workers is by providing mobility to backlogged folks. Unfortunately too many forces against this bill
    Feb 120
  • Bank of America poop_gold
    Never gonna pass *does the hula dance*
    Feb 80
  • Google GuSp36
    hope not
    Feb 70
  • Proofpoint / Engfoodtruckj
    Sounds good. Doesn't work.

    It's all public relations.
    Feb 70
  • Veritas / Other13Jija
    I don’t think this will materialize.
    Feb 70
  • Microsoft / Eng
    nonyms

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    nonymsmore
    Logic never makes sense in politics
    Feb 70
  • Microsoft OqRz31
    They introduced a bill to give green cards to everyone within 1 month of their coming to usa
    Feb 70
  • Microsoft OqRz31
    Lol
    Feb 70

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