S386 if it passed

New rich101
Sep 21 44 Comments

If the bill is passed, the number of foreign students from India will explode in anticipation of GC. They may not get GC due to limits, but the unchecked OPT will ensure anyone making decent TC will be replaced quickly. with OPT candidates. After all, anyone can leetcode.

Be careful what you wish for, you might get it.

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TOP 44 Comments
  • Twitter jkkugdyh
    Wow blatant racism against Indian students now?
    Sep 21 6
    • Spotify bbgunbiu
      Not against Indians, but Indian consulting company H1b abusers that screw everyone including its very own Indians
      Sep 21
    • New rich101
      OP
      I don’t blame Indian consulting firms. There was a business need and they are fulfilling it, that is capitalism.
      Sep 21
    • EPAM Systems €@+d!çk
      Indians think facts are racist
      Sep 21
    • Netflix
      LevelDown

      Netflix

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      Google, Amazon
      LevelDownmore
      Why this hate, just compete. You can study STEM too
      Sep 21
    • Veritas / Other 13Jija
      This is not racism. Plonker!
      Sep 21
  • Micron / Mktg mem_dude
    Not only this. Lots of jobs at my company has been outsourced to India in addition of having the whole company turn indian. That’s why we need Trump.
    Sep 21 11
    • Google !xyzzyx
      Contracting is outsourcing ? Oh Blind :)
      Sep 21
    • Zulily / Eng
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      Code monkey jobs are being outsourced too not just to India, to china , Taiwan and Indonesia. Even Indians are replaced by outsourcing. @who ever asked sane question of why I am here. Then US Universities are the only place to get quality education, now its not the case anymore. And everything I meant other jobs as well not SW. Any how my point is if you are afraid of leetcode you are not competent enough and keep worrying..
      Sep 21
    • Amazon fjriemd
      When your contracting employees are from India, why not? Team shipment on L visas is worse. Google is not alone. Amazon, Microsoft, Accenture, big four all ship teams from India to US.
      Sep 21
    • Microsoft mehmeh8
      So it sounds like India will soon compete against US and we will see the companies like G and FB coming out of India. Cool. Then, we don’t need to abolish the country quota. I wish the success of India. The current system only benefits privileged upper middle class people in India whose only interest is coming yo US to make money and don’t have any empathy for the people in Indian living with GDP per capita of $2,000 per year.

      BTW when would that happen? Research papers from top 3 Indian universities are still less than top 100th university in US. You gotta differentiate your hope and fact. India should start competing against Finland first before talking about further stage let alone US.
      Sep 21
    • Intel kMNn15
      There is no one size fits all argument to all the questions asked. There are good things and bad to every aspect of the argument. I’ve read a few American citizens commenting in support of this bill and some going out of their way to barf about Indians and Frauds. Not all eggs are rotten and periodic pruning is essential. Being an Indian, I ran away from all of the bigotry that is in Indian IT system. But not all of it is rotten. There are some genuine honest to god companies that do things by the book. In the mix, bad apples stand apart and take everyone else down with them. Like my graduate school professor once said, it’s because of immigrants that our graduate programs are so full. If not for you guys we wouldn’t even have this world class program to run. Aren’t graduate programs purely merit based? Doesn’t this indicate that there is a genuine shortage. Also, the current system ensures an Indian origin engineer who worked his ass off is sitting in the same bucket as every other IT guy in the GC line and has to wait for 70 years for his/her turn. Reforms are required on multiple levels. Hope such discriminatory and accusatory comments from the “privileged” class stop!
      Sep 24
  • Netflix laCasaDePa
    Anyone against 100% indian bill is racist. lol I wonder who is the real racist.

    Today, any post speaks truth to s386 got flagged. Now imagine a few years after s386 passed...
    Sep 21 2
    • Microsoft cptlsm
      How t f is it Indian bill. It doesn’t even mention any nationality. Will it benefit Indians ? Yes. But that’s only because they have 150+ years wait time. Do you think that’s fair?
      Sep 21
    • Intel kMNn15
      People don’t want to think about what’s fair and what’s not. A person waiting in line for more than 20 years should go back because s/he’s Indian. Anyone else is welcome and will get it in 1-3 years. That’s not all racist or discriminatory!!!
      Sep 24
  • Lenovo dFJs87
    If you get replaced by cheaper labor then you weren't adding enough value to the company. Make your value known, and they will pay you the big money. Also having worked with lots of h1-b they often are paid as much as their American counter part, and they cost more because of the fees and admin required by h1b
    Sep 21 6
    • Tesla lambdaq
      Indians are just cheaper. Lots of companies already failed outsourcing and working with them. I’d recommend Eastern Europe. Much more qualified candidates.
      Sep 21
    • Groupon / Eng sleepy
      How can you hire 10k people in East Europe?
      Sep 21
    • Tesla lambdaq
      The same way as in India. There’s a ton of consultancies.
      Sep 21
    • Groupon / Eng sleepy
      Is there a company with that many employees? East Europe population is probably less than an Indian state population. Isn’t it?
      Sep 21
    • Microsoft mehmeh8
      Everyone knows outsourcing to India is more harm than good. Eastern Europe is much better of course with similar cost. However, most of management is filled with Indians who will only insist outsourcing to India.
      Sep 21
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    • Twitter jkkugdyh
      We need a wall over the Indian Ocean
      Sep 21
    • New rich101
      OP
      To be fair, they are using lobbyist groups to get legislation passed. That is how things work in DC.

      Things haven’t changed since Mr. Smith went to Washington.
      Sep 21
    • Oracle / Mgmt cdfm52
      Same way Mexico paid for the wall that mr president built 😊
      Sep 21
    • Microsoft dfXF78
      Folks probably need to call your senator to express your concerns
      Sep 21
  • Microsoft cptlsm
    Ok this is outright racism.
    Sep 21 1
    • Zulily / Eng
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      This is not racism, I just see wet pants afraid of new talent.. :P
      Sep 21
  • New rich101
    OP
    There are probably more workers on OPT than H1b right now. That number will increase significantly after this bill.

    Rest assured, there are bean counters looking at excel spreadsheets everyday to see if high TC employees can be replaced. Anyone not directly impacting revenue will be replaced.

    That is capitalism. Stock prices will do very well and it will benefit me tremendously.
    Sep 21 1
    • Groupon / Eng sleepy
      You can stay on OPT for 3 years max. And there are 5 times h1b backlogged people than opt workers. Search on the internet please...
      Sep 21
  • Google !xyzzyx
    You the think the number of students from India is low? Even with current GC rules, I think maximum number of international students are from India. Universities here make a lot of money from international students.
    Sep 21 1
    • Microsoft mehmeh8
      China sends more than India.
      Sep 21
  • Lenovo dFJs87
    Do you believe in the free market? If so compete and win otherwise you believe the government should decide who gets the jobs and that makes you communist
    Sep 21 1
    • Amazon / R&D ATTE75
      Manipulation :)))
      Sep 21
  • EPAM Systems €@+d!çk
    Sep 21 0
  • Flagged by the community.

  • Yahoo eGiO01
    Really, Iran nurses, Hispanic employment visas, now this ? WTF, how the hell you can find these reasons ?
    Sep 21 0