SADFANGLUST companies with SWE forced attrition

Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
Jul 4, 2018 24 Comments

We all know that Amazon has a forced attrition policy of cutting the bottom 6% of engineers, and that one of them attempted suicide recently.

Which of the following companies have a similar policy of terminating a certain percentage of engineers in cycles, or once someone has been at a certain level X months without a promotion?

- Square
- Apple
- Dropbox
- Facebook
- Airbnb
- Netflix
- Google
- Lyft
- Uber
- Stripe
- Twitter

I'm assuming LinkedIn and Microsoft don't currently do this, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

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TOP 24 Comments
  • Google / Eng v0
    Can we stop making up these crazy acronyms? Please and thank you.
    Jul 4, 2018 2
    • Microsoft JsonBlob
      Haha
      Jul 4, 2018
    • Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
      OP
      Why? This one captures my top picks of tech companies to work at aside from Bloomberg, MSFT and LinkedIn. It's a serious question
      Jul 4, 2018
  • Facebook NXob33
    Facebook is the biggest sweatshop
    Jul 4, 2018 1
    • Uber Gtfvjyd
      Yup. That's why I left.
      Jul 4, 2018
  • Google kissmypiss
    Fuck these stupid acronyms.
    Jul 4, 2018 2
    • Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
      OP
      Why? This one captures my top picks of tech companies to work at aside from Bloomberg, MSFT and LinkedIn. It's a serious question
      Jul 4, 2018
    • New / Eng
      :O

      New Eng

      BIO
      philly, angular spring boot postgres
      :Omore
      did you prepare this response in advance
      Jul 4, 2018
  • Netflix fs92
    We do not.
    Jul 4, 2018 3
    • Apple / Other Red😎
      Really, I thought it was in Netflix HR deck that they trim average performers
      Jul 4, 2018
    • Research Now / Eng Arschloch
      Really? I have heard that Netflix is 10x more aggressive than Amazon in firing people.
      Jul 4, 2018
    • Netflix fs92
      Firing people who are not working out does not mean firing the bottom x%. We only have one IC level and there's no requirement to move into management or move up the management ladder, so up or out makes no sense here anyway.
      Jul 4, 2018
  • Amazon Vytvb
    Lol.. I only read LUST..
    Jul 4, 2018 0
  • Research Now / Eng Arschloch
    I used to work for Goldman Sachs and they cut 15% workforce every year. They shamelessly used age as a criteria to cut people. Another criteria was that introverts who don’t build a sexy image at workplace were also cut.

    I guess in our industry we just have to learn to live with this fact. Leetcode everyday.
    Jul 4, 2018 0
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    • Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
      OP
      What is "good attrition?" If a certain percentage is always cut, then everyone will try their best but some will still be cut. Meanwhile, a toxic environment is created in which people rampantly throw each other under the bus, and work crazy hours under constant stress
      Jul 4, 2018
    • Microsoft / Mgmt
      blndtrpRep

      Microsoft Mgmt

      BIO
      I identify as a black woman. If I put something in caps, it’s a book title you should read, Rational Male or No More Mr Nice Guy. See /r/theredpill for help.
      blndtrpRepmore
      If you’re fighting to stay out of the bottom 6% every year, you’re in the wrong profession.
      Jul 4, 2018
    • Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
      OP
      Anyone can be in the bottom 6% for multiple possible reasons. They could be overpaid for their experience level, assigned to a tech stack they do not know well in comparison to their peers, or simply play politics poorly (which can happen in many ways including by criticizing management decisions during meetings)
      Jul 4, 2018
    • Microsoft / Mgmt
      blndtrpRep

      Microsoft Mgmt

      BIO
      I identify as a black woman. If I put something in caps, it’s a book title you should read, Rational Male or No More Mr Nice Guy. See /r/theredpill for help.
      blndtrpRepmore
      Yes and and that point, it’s a about assessing potential and seeing if you can coach them out of the bottom bucket. But, that’s usually done on a case by case basis. Sometimes the best thing you can do for someone is help them move to someplace they can be successful.
      Jul 4, 2018
  • Pocket Gems noob814
    SAD-FANG-LUST , that's sad :/
    Jul 4, 2018 1
    • Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
      OP
      You saw my pun
      Jul 4, 2018
  • Capital One / Eng Nigiri
    Capital One does stack ranking
    Jul 4, 2018 0
  • Facebook endless
    Good topic
    Jul 4, 2018 0
  • Walmart wJJM33
    Love this shortlist for PM jobs . Thanks OP!
    Jul 4, 2018 0
  • Gusto iwannadie
    Stripe lol?
    Jul 4, 2018 0

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