SF Bay vs Seattle as a single?

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Obi-Won

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Google
Obi-Wonmore
Jul 15, 2017 61 Comments

I'm a 22 years old European guy with opportunities to work at Google in Mountain View or at Amazon in Seattle.

Google seems to be more developer friendly than Amazon and its culture/perks seem to be superior.

However Amazon is located in the heart of Seattle whereas Moutain View is a very small city and one hour away from San Francisco.

As a young and single man what choice should I pick? I want to be able to go out, visit places and date but I also want to pick a company where my geek/engineer personality fits the best.

Both companies pay nearly the same but Google pays a little more to compensate the cost of life in Silicon Valley.

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  • Google / Eng M30W
    Ask for a position in Google Seattle :) You're welcome.
    Jul 15, 2017 1
    • Adobe / Eng
      Jeb2020

      Adobe Eng

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      Jeb2020more
      Can confirm Google Seattle is a nice place, and we are next to them ;)
      Jul 19, 2017
  • Amazon / Eng
    mUqi08

    Amazon Eng

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    mUqi08more
    mountain view is very close to San Francisco, there are company shuttle to San Francisco and a lot of people commute between them.
    Jul 15, 2017 7
    • Facebook Osmandias
      "Very close"
      Jul 15, 2017
    • Ridecell CrocDundee
      1hr, 5 hours if you take 101
      Jul 15, 2017
    • Lyft / Eng lyftttttt
      very close😂
      Jul 16, 2017
    • Intercontinental Hotels / Sales justintime
      Closer than LA
      Jul 19, 2017
    • Databricks / Eng
      datadicks

      Databricks Eng

      BIO
      Sucking data
      datadicksmore
      Lol washingtonians have no concept of what close is
      Aug 14, 2017
  • Internet Brands / Product Ibbyliever
    Mountain View. Google is just a better company than Amazon from an employee perspective. You'll score more second dates by virtue of not bitching about work all the time.

    Work in Mountain View, play in the city, date in San Jose. (Yeah, I said it.)
    Jul 15, 2017 3
    • New / Eng Hunnish
      Date in San Jose? We're assuming OP is straight here right?
      Jul 15, 2017
    • Internet Brands / Product Ibbyliever
      Fair point.
      Jul 15, 2017
    • Amazon / Other
      arb1980

      Amazon Other

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      arb1980more
      Isn't the commute from SF to Google a huge pain in the ass?
      Jul 16, 2017
  • New / Eng Hunnish
    Neither, ask to switch to Google NYC.

    Otherwise, Google >>>>> Amazon, and the women are better looking in SF vs Seattle. Gender ratio is awful but as a European guy with an accent you have an advantage. Just don't live anywhere other than SF.
    Jul 15, 2017 1
    • Microsoft / Eng
      Gintama

      Microsoft Eng

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      Gintamamore
      These are only dreams ahahaha
      Jul 23, 2017
  • Amazon / Eng
    mUqi08

    Amazon Eng

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    mUqi08more
    living cost mainly housing is cheaper in Seattle, but Google does not pip people as aggressive as Amazon, and if you get laid off in Google you will most likely find a job elsewhere before your exit interview.
    Jul 15, 2017 4
    • Amazon Gwannabe
      This is true but getting promoted at Google is fucking hard
      Jul 15, 2017
    • Google / Eng
      On

      Google Eng

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      Onmore
      Easier than Amazon
      Jul 15, 2017
    • Google / Mgmt
      goog111

      Google Mgmt

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      goog111more
      I think it takes more prep to get promoted at Google but it's not such a terrible thing.
      Jul 16, 2017
    • Salesforce / Eng tan90
      Based on the choice of words (single, 22, young), I think OP is concerned about getting laid rather than laid off. :D
      Jul 27, 2017
  • Microsoft / Mktg jfh464
    I moved to Seattle one year ago and have a great friend group here. This city is just so 'liveable' - affordable, walkable, tons to do. I would vote Seattle no question, your salary is going to go a lot further. Moved here from big east coast city and it's been a major upgrade.
    Jul 15, 2017 0
  • Microsoft No0b
    Bay all the way- Seattle social scene sucks. Been here 4 years and talking about moving because we still haven't made many great friends.
    Jul 15, 2017 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    Tzep32

    Amazon Eng

    BIO
    A Dev, a musician, an architect, performance optimizer, always open for new things. hates bullshit
    Tzep32more
    ok I'm European, worked at Amazon, now working at Google (didn't change my blind crap yet). First as for work, DO NoT Choose Amazon over Google. I left Amazon after 8 months because it is a piece of shit (frugality, fucked up ownership), pm me for awful detail. As far as the bay goes, I commute from East Bay to MV, and if you use Gbus it's not that awful. As far as girls go, peninsula is probably the worse place in the world (due to supply demand thingy). SF is a bit better, but interesting thing is it seems more people are Polly then anywhere else. so getting laid is not that difficult if you don't have a high bar. Getting a serious girlfriend is a different story
    Jul 15, 2017 1
    • Google miCJ74
      poly is a great answer to supply problems. Really should be a study on this. Though I'm selfish.

      Maintaining a relationship is difficult when a woman has men hitting on her every day. I have had dudes in front of my face boasting to my GFs about their job, doctor.. money. putting me down in front of the GF. It's pathetic. Never really works but they're desperate. Had one serious relationship here with a "keeper" who ended up with her ex, though I was getting my financial situation in order then. Been around the world and this sort of thing has never happened to me elsewhere.
      Jul 16, 2017
  • Microsoft
    🐙M🐙

    Microsoft

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    🐙M🐙more
    Everyone I know who works at Google in Mountain View takes the Google bus and gets in at like 10 and leaves at like 4. Sounds like that makes up for the commute.
    Jul 15, 2017 0
  • Google miCJ74
    in both places, especially the bay area, set your expectations low and even when you do lower your standards to get laid, don't settle long term, you deserve better. No one should settle. i would sort of forget about dating in the bay, esp. south bay. I personally hate the fuck n chuck. I say make money in bay, take vacations to other better cities to date. Or after working at Google for a year or so, transfer to a better city. Though there are muuuch better projects in mountain view. All the new stuff that gets you promoted is in MV
    Jul 15, 2017 5
    • Google AQJR18
      What is wrong with Bay Area women?
      Jul 15, 2017
    • Google miCJ74
      supply/demand. You'll do better if there's more supply to choose from. I see so many good looking guys who had to settle.. not me as my GF is not from here.
      Jul 15, 2017
    • Google AQJR18
      High quality supply is always hard to come by and if you like smarts and beauty than Bay Area is the pinnacle. But I agree women can afford to be picky here.
      Jul 15, 2017
    • Google miCJ74
      yep I love the educated women here. GF is in Eastern Europe drop dead gorgeous and highly educated though so that's ideal. there you can have your cake and eat it too. not too picky as she's with me 😄 Though there are many more women than men
      Jul 15, 2017
    • New / Eng
      wfYl30

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      wfYl30more
      That's y u come down here to Hollywood town
      Jul 18, 2017
  • Oracle / Eng
    ensocbakao

    Oracle Eng

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    Amazon
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    I give a lot of interviews.
    ensocbakaomore
    Lived in both places. Pick Seattle, live on Capitol Hill. Enjoy bars, booty and work. Don't follow my advice if you don't like drizzle.

    NB: Mountain View is *very* far away from SF, time-wise, if not in terms of miles.
    Jul 15, 2017 1
    • Amazon Qhaf38
      This
      Jul 15, 2017
  • Intuit yeux
    Another thing to consider is, when you want to do the whole going out have fun part, do you prefer that in the rain, or sun? One would be raining ALL the time minus a beautiful 2 months, and the other would be sunny ALL the time minus 2 weeks in a good non-drought year
    Jul 15, 2017 1
    • New / Eng Hunnish
      I agree with the conclusion, but it's not *that* bad. It's more that it's overcast for all but 2-4 months out of the year, and that seriously depresses people. And yeah, there are times when it'll rain every single day for weeks straight, but it's not all the time.
      Jul 15, 2017
  • Apple / Eng
    DudeAbides

    Apple Eng

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    Microsoft
    DudeAbidesmore
    If it were me, I'd go to google MV. No question. You have to consider other things like what is it that you'll be doing with your free time? Seattle weather drastically limits your outdoor activities most of the year. Seattle is a nice city. I lived in Belltown out of college and loved it. But having left Seattle for the Bay Area, I love it here. The cost of living is insane and that extra sprinkle google is paying you wont make up for the higher costs. But if you like sunshine and the ability to do things outdoors, go for Google. You'll have more time in your hands and more things to do with it.

    You'll meet girls no matter where you are. You'll find fun bars no matter where you are. SF is just a short train ride or Uber north if you want to get crazy. Or just live in SF and take the google shuttle to work. Plenty of options. SF is an alpha city. Seattle is a beta city at best. So much more things going on down here for a young 22 year old to experience.
    Jul 16, 2017 0
  • Microsoft / Eng ric_ta
    Weather in Seattle sucks 9 months out of the year. If you like the sun, go to the bay
    Jul 16, 2017 0
  • Amazon / Other iHzd02
    Mountain View sucks. Seattle is hard to beat for accessibility to water/mountains while remaining a decent size city that is easy to get around and has a huge food/drink scene.

    Sure, it's pretty grey throughout the winter weather wise...But the summer makes up for it. Plus it's not really that bad - not the east coast or mid west with freezing temp and snow!
    Jul 15, 2017 0
  • TI
    ASICMan

    TI

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    ASICManmore
    I worked at HP Palo Alto. Late 90s. Hardly even dated. Moved to a job in Boise and got married within a year.
    Jul 15, 2017 2
    • Barracuda / Eng Big Datum
      So you suggest a single guy to move to Idaho? fuck...
      Jul 18, 2017
    • Microsoft / Eng
      Gintama

      Microsoft Eng

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      Gintamamore
      At that point move to Fargo !
      Jul 23, 2017
  • Revinate / Data JPQ
    San Jose is close to mountain view and has better women. Forget SF. It's various levels of hype. Go Google, and date in the "South Bay". SF is nice when you don't have to stay. Lyft in for the night, then gtfo. It's not like other cities out here don't have night life. Also you are 22. Please go to the college towns and talk to women in Masters degree programs. Stanford, Berkeley, Santa Clara.
    Jul 20, 2017 1
    • Microsoft / Eng
      Gintama

      Microsoft Eng

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      Gintamamore
      I agree .
      Jul 23, 2017
  • Amazon mrLogic
    If you have the skills and the looks you will get good dates in both places. If you like building a lot of stuff to deliver value to the customers, if you like pace and growing fast, then Amazon is the company to be in. If you like being pampered then Google is better than Amazon. Geographically the 2 places are so very different. California is almost a Dessert where as Western Washington is mountainous rain forest. I personally love Seattle and find it hard to comprehend when people say they like the sun in the Bay area.
    Jul 16, 2017 1
    • Microsoft / Eng ric_ta
      you're in the minority if you like overcast weather. And it's definitely not a desert where I live now in the bay -- Evergreens right next to palm trees -- it's beautiful. I lived in Seattle for almost 6 years and found myself seriously considering a sun lamp at Costco one day. That's when I knew it was time to bail
      Jul 16, 2017
  • Google AQJR18
    If you meet the right gal Bay Area will be fun and commuting from SF may help if you like the night life. But I personally don't have time to hang out at bars to chase guys due to work. I suspect you will feel too busy to date once you dive into work.
    Jul 15, 2017 0
  • Amazon qJsD82
    Amazon Seattle
    Jul 15, 2017 0