Salary Range as Engineering Manager

Yahoo yTLQ56
Aug 25 23 Comments

Recuiters asked my salary expecation as Enginering Manager. I wonder if I can get some advice to have a resonalble TC range as an Engineering Manager in Bay Area?

This is the average / mediam numbers I found from levels.fyi (numbers from other sources seem to be low)
Manager:
- L6 Manager / Google: 500 - 550
- L6 SDM / Amazon: 400 - 450
- M1 / Facebook: 500 - 550

Sr. Manager
- L7 Senior Manager / Google: 700 - 750
- L7 Seninor SDM: 550 - 600
- M2 / Facebook: 800 (only two numbers, 700 and 950)

I currently only manage ICs. But with companies I am interviewing with, some will have only ICs and a couple will have managers. I won't get a Sr. Manager role in FANNG since I am only managing ICs. I m currenlty 14 YOE with 7 Year as manager.

I am thinking about a TC with a range of 500 - 600. Does this sound a reasonable range?

Thanks

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  • Yahoo yTLQ56
    OP
    Had a call, I gave a range 480-550. The recruiter said we can work on that. ๐Ÿ˜„
    Aug 26 2
    • Amazon / Product giju14
      Recruiters can always work on any number but usually cant get it
      Sep 2
    • Yahoo yTLQ56
      OP
      True, I wait and see
      Sep 2
  • eBay abababbb
    Overly over what youโ€™ll be offered. To get anywhere close you need to have competing offers and they need to want u bad
    Aug 25 0
  • Netflix jrncinnn
    Thanks for compiling this. These numbers could be offers from yester years with stock appreciation baked in. What I have discovered is that the only way to know real numbers is to get competing offers and playing them off one another.
    Aug 25 0
  • Microsoft
    shenierb d

    Microsoft

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    shenierb dmore
    Your numbers from Amazon and Facebook are off. Amazon is 250- 350 a
    Aug 25 7
    • Yahoo yTLQ56
      OP
      Seems the level.fyi might be higher than the market.
      Aug 25
    • Bose
      nooblol

      Bose

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      Salesforce
      nooblolmore
      Exceptions always possible if you are good
      Aug 25
    • Amazon CulStryBro
      L6 SDM in the Bay Area goes up to 450k. External offers are generally 375-450k.
      Aug 25
    • Amazon / Product giju14
      These are inflated numbers with stock growth. Sdm l6 in bay area target is 380ish and this is for applied science sdm which is higher than swe slightly at amazon.
      Sep 2
    • Amazon CulStryBro
      380k is not top of band for an L6 SDM or SDE, whether or not they have an ML background. More like mid band external offer. Top of current band is 450k. Even last year, top of band was over 400k.
      Sep 2
  • Yahoo yTLQ56
    OP
    Intial offer is 500K TC (base, bonus, RSU). How much chance can I negotiate up?
    Sep 3 2
    • Microsoft
      shenierb d

      Microsoft

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      shenierb dmore
      Which company?
      Sep 3
    • Yelp / Eng sJJv80
      If you havenโ€™t negotiated and donโ€™t have competing offers, you can always ask for 10% more, โ€œto make the offer more compelling.โ€ You can probably get +5-10% out of that tactic.
      Sep 4
  • Google BOF
    At Google L6 Manager of SWE ICs can go up to around 750k
    Aug 26 2
    • Amazon / Product giju14
      No they cant. Of course an exception with vp approval or an inflated past years rsu can get l6 managers to 750 and even beyond but new offers without exceptions would be around 500k.
      Sep 3
    • Google BOF
      That's why I said up to.
      Sep 3
  • New
    Uncle Xi

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    Uncle Ximore
    Damn. Where do they all live? I'm broke want that CASH!
    Aug 25 0
  • Amazon CulStryBro
    Your L7 Sr. SDM numbers for Amazon are low. Probably around right for Seattle, but in Bay Area, it is more like 550-750 for external offers. Top of band is essentially the same as for Google L7.
    Aug 25 0
  • Yahoo yTLQ56
    OP
    Looks like maybe the level.fyi is higher? Agree that having a competing offer. I am looking for a reasonable range to start with (don't want to be low-balled).
    Aug 25 0

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