My spouse got an offer from Boeing for a design & analytics engineer II. Does anyone know the pay range for that level? They have 3 years experience in design, 7 years in the Air Force (avionics tech- 5 yrs active duty), and is 2/3 complete with their masters in AE. We weren’t excited by the offer as it was lower than they are currently getting paid and Boeing didn’t offer immediate tuition reimbursement. We are wondering how aggressive we should be with a counter offer. If it helps, they gave a choice of 3 roles.
2 spouses are better than 1.
Just know the chicken Parm will be the best meal of her life
Does Boeing pay like shit? 95k base?
I get a discount on shoes. Do you get a discount on airplanes?
Yes, if u can afford $350 mil airplane for cash purchase. Boeing will give employee discount. Boeing will pay like shit for certain positions. Even with shitty paying position, you can get employee discount on aircraft purchase.
Why don’t you provide what data to help answer your question
What’s the skill code for the role? It should be in the offer and I can get you the salary range based on that
Depends if it's Mechanical or Electrical. Mechanical market was 85K Electrical market was 90K last year I don't have the new values, they might have gone up a bit, but a few thousand at most. The "target" is to pay SPEEA engineers 15% over "market" values on average. Level 2 engineers have around 4 years of experience on average and Boeing generally doesn't care about anything higher than a BS (except for a handful of skill codes). The lowest Boeing pays for all skill codes and levels is 75% of market (but that is extremely rare) they consider a person "highly paid" when he or she is 125% of market. If you message me the major organization and the specific skill code 6B1B or whatever it is I can give a more accurate reflection based on the SPEEA salary charts.
The target is to have the average SPEEA salary be above the market average by 15%. It’s not broken up by skill code at that level so individuals and skill codes can still be vastly underpaid or overpaid (yeah right!) as long as the overall SPEEA average targets 15% above the market average. Agreed on Boeing not caring about anything above a BS. A rare time that comes into play is straight out of college, you should come in as a level 2 if you have a masters. Also, Boeing uses their “reference” SJC salary tables when determining salaries and raises, which don’t accurately reflect the real numbers in the SPEEA tables.
You are correct, it is not per level or skill code. It does tend to end up working out pretty close, but there are some that are lower paid (test and evaluation engineers) and some that are higher (electrical design and analysis happens to be one of them). The market doesn't necessarily match what they publish in their salary charts either because that target value changes year to year depending on the companies that participate in the survey they use.
Fyi, Boeing doesn’t count active duty exp as engineering exp. As fact, no major aerospace company will consider aviation tech experience as engineering experience. Unless the position is liaison engineer or maintenance engineer... no offense to them, but they have no engineering authority... salary range is quite a bit lower than designer/analysis position. What’s his/her pay now? If the one has skillset that’s definitely needed, Boeing can make some things happen. I’ve seen new tailored reqs to have better match for higher pay. Also, managers have authority to override 1 year service requirement on tuition reimbursement. I’ve never seen anyone requesting though. What location?
am i the only one curious about the spouse being "they"?
That's a perfectly normal manner of speech.. e.g..: Them (used with a singular indefinite pronoun or singular noun antecedent in place of the definite masculine him or the definite feminine her): "If you know anyone looking for a job, tell them to contact me. If a patient asks a question, you should answer them honestly."