Salesforce vs Amazon?

Microsoft vovito
Jul 14 60 Comments

Amazon Tc: 240
Salesforce Tc:270

Current Tc:200 @ Microsoft level 62

Location: Seattle vs Bellevue

Title: Amazon l5 vs salesforce Senior MTS

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  • Amazon nSNv43
    There is some really good work happening at Amazon but wlb and growth really depend on which team you are in, if wrong life is super fucked. Also, compensation is the bigger issue. Amazon's comp is more like a contract that you sign at the start where the bumps you get every year are not really great or meaningful which means even if you bust your ass for the whole year you'll still end up getting very minimal increment in base and some stocks. I think Salesforce has good raises every year and bonuses(not sure). They have some solid products too and are here to stay, so overall would say join Salesforce.
    Jul 14 7
    • Amazon nSNv43
      I say you should not worry about the brand value coz Salesforce and Amazon both are big enough names imo.
      Jul 14
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      Thanks:) I believe both teams are good, I talked with engineers from both team after the interview, I believe I can learn a lot from them. just had concerns about my career in the next few years, If I want to move, I can still get chance to interview and get offer from other big names. Your reply save my life
      Jul 14
    • Amazon nSNv43
      Congratulations on the two offers and all the best with your decision. Glad I could help.
      Jul 14
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      Thank you!
      Jul 14
    • Amazon sde12
      I would also think where do you want to next after amazon/Salesforce and factor that into account. Amazon is not only a bigger name on your resume but I believe your learning opportunities and do impactful is also higher. Keep in mind you can always change teams in amazon if things don’t workout in the team you join( vast set of problems being worked on across retail/AWS and Alexa.
      Jul 14
  • Amazon amazons
    Where do you prefer to live? That would be how I’d choose
    Jul 14 5
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      I bough a house at Redmond, probably will stay at Redmond.
      Jul 14
    • Amazon cgucxtxyv
      Salesforce for sure then. Are you insane?
      Jul 14
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      Location is fine, 50% of my neighbors work for amazon...
      Jul 14
    • Facebook bjivfe
      Amazon in seattle or bellevue? You will hate commute from east to seattle. I’ve done it for a year
      Jul 14
    • Amazon CCtx15
      Depends how early you go. Before 6 am you’re fine. I guess leaving also sucks.If you plan on working 6am-8pm you’re good. Otherwise you’ll sit in traffic an extra 30-60 min
      Jul 14
  • Nvidia wagecuck
    Yoe? Amzn offer seems low.
    Jul 14 3
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      3.5, started at 59 @ MS
      Jul 14
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      Yes, top performer for past 3 years with 18% bonus every year
      Jul 14
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      DM!
      Jul 14
  • Salesforce coolforce
    Salesforce any day. I know ms, amazon and Salesforce. Salesforce by far the best culture and value/respect for an employee.
    Jul 14 1
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      What about tech? People always say Ms and Amazon are paas, where salesforce is Saas. But a lot of team in MS are doing SaaS. Plus, why people say SaaS is always better than PaaS?
      Jul 14
  • SAP UX*
    This needs to be a poll.
    Jul 14 0
  • Microsoft vector27
    Negotiate with Amazon. I feel Amazon has a lot of interesting work under AWS and you may be able to move internally to get broader experience. See if you can push them for 300k. With current numbers Salesforce offer looks better
    Jul 14 4
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      I tried negotiate, from 220 to 240, I think they can probably do 250 - 260 in Seattle area?
      Jul 14
    • Microsoft vector27
      Use the Salesforce offer leverage to ask for 300k. Is this for L5 or L6?
      Jul 14
    • Microsoft vector27
      A friend if mine was able to get a 280k offer for an L5 position. He had a competing offer from Facebook though.
      Jul 14
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      Bay Area or Seattle? For the 280K
      Jul 15
  • Salesforce checking..
    Depending on what you want.
    If wlb and don’t care about technology SF
    Or else amazon
    It can get really frustrating at SF if you care about learning ( of course there will be few teams which are good ) but in most cases people are in for wlb
    Jul 14 3
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      I do care technology, want to learn! The team I am talking with in Salesforce is building something from Starch, will use some cutting-edge I can assume?
      Jul 14
    • Salesforce checking..
      Which team is it ? Most of the teams in sf do 1 thing interact with core product and right some code around it and sell the stuff . Interacting with core is no fun.

      If you don’t care about wlb 9 out of 10 times amazon team would be better than sf in terms on technology and work.
      Jul 14
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      The team is building some big data platform
      Jul 15
  • Salesforce DREAMkid
    Salesforce
    Jul 14 3
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      Are you happy and will not leave?
      Jul 14
    • Salesforce DREAMkid
      WLB is pretty good. Depends on what you seek.
      Jul 15
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      Too earlier for a 3.5 YOE to seek WLB?
      Jul 15
  • Amazon / Mgmt hKKI53
    Do not work for Amazon
    Jul 14 2
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      LOL? What happened
      Jul 14
    • Amazon / Mgmt hKKI53
      I know the inner workings and the unagretted attrition means you can be performing and meeting all goals and still end up pivoted, on a pip or as an LE and be out of a job.
      Jul 14
  • Salesforce Tsarnaev
    For everyone saying Salesforce, you don’t know jack****. Salesforce Marketing cloud is recently established in Bellevue. The whole org is full of ex Microsoft employees. They have brought there culture with them and work day and night to fight the laid back culture of Salesforce. GLuck
    Jul 14 4
    • Salesforce DREAMkid
      This is not 100% true. Do you work on marketing cloud?

      I work on marketing cloud and it's pretty chill and people here are very understanding. They do have a deadline but they take WLB seriously
      Jul 15
    • Salesforce Tsarnaev
      Marketing Cloud Bellevue != Marketing Cloud Indy. If you think you have WLB now, you’re just a whipped into place worker. You haven’t seen any other of the clouds that aren’t MSFT
      Jul 15
    • Salesforce DREAMkid
      Not sure I'm in SF so YMMV but it's pretty good here.
      Jul 15
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      LOL I am at MSFT now, seems hard work guys move to Salesforce Bellevue..
      Jul 15
  • Amazon / Eng bingming
    What would you be doing at both companies?
    Jul 14 3
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      Amazon AWS IOT-the team is doing the Auth related work, SF Marketing Cloud-seems a data platform
      Jul 14
    • Amazon VEbY46
      Just based on this I'd say Amazon because IOT is doing some really good work currently and it's something that'll help you grow.
      Jul 14
    • Salesforce Tsarnaev
      Wow. The Microsoft take over continues. I know exactly which manager you will work for.
      Jul 14
  • Amazon / Eng
    Wow!!

    Amazon Eng

    BIO
    Supberb
    Wow!!more
    No need to poll. Go sf
    Jul 14 2
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      Could you explain please? Amazon is a better brand name and reputation?
      Jul 14
    • Salesforce curious03
      lol.. Amazon is modern TCS
      Oct 9
  • Salesforce checking..
    Are u missing a 0 on our TC ??
    Jul 14 2
    • Visa / Eng kjzO64
      Maybe it’s in Lakhs.
      Jul 14
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      Yea, missed 0K
      Jul 14
  • Cisco meoww
    How did you prep?
    Jul 14 1
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      Leetcode:)
      Jul 15
  • Salesforce hjkifccjk
    Salesforce!!!
    Jul 14 1
    • Amazon / Mgmt hKKI53
      Hot to be better than Amazon
      Jul 14
  • Cerner change now
    Salesforce
    Jul 14 1
    • Microsoft vovito
      OP
      Could you explain why sf?
      Jul 14
  • New / IT
    no_1

    New IT

    PRE
    Visa
    BIO
    Fresher
    no_1more
    I'm a fresher, Cs grad. I'm looking for opportunities at Salesforce. Could anyone give me a referral?
    Thanks :)
    Jul 16 0
  • Salesforce jdhsbsba
    Amazon brand value will be good and Salesforce refresher will be bad but good life and WLB
    Jul 15 0

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