Salesforce vs Google vs Microsoft

Amazon deadbob
Nov 8 36 Comments

I have offers from Microsoft, Google and Salesforce:

Salesforce
Location: Bellevue
Level: MTS
Base: $150k
Performance bonus: 10% => $7.5k (midpoint)
RSUs: $252k ($63k/year)
Sign-on: $22k
Total: $220.5k/year (excluding sign-on)

Google Cloud:
Location: Sunnyvale
Level: L3
Base: $135k
Performance bonus: 15% => $10k (midpoint)
RSUs: $285k ($71.25k/year)
Sign-on: $25k
Total: $216k/year ($198k/year after 8% CA state tax, and excluding sign-on)

Microsoft Azure:
Location: Redmond
Level: 61
Base: $137k
Performance bonus: 20% => 13.7k (midpoint)
RSUs: $140k ($35k/year)
Sign-on: $20k first year, $20k second year
Total: $185.7/year (excluding sign-on)

Current TC: $157k
YOE: 3

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TOP 36 Comments
  • Apple woodkid
    Why is Microsoft even an option?
    Google's RSU for L3 is amazing.

    One thing I would consider is that Salesforce has 0 refreshers for the first 4 years. In Google, you'd easily get 50k as L3 refresher per year, and not to mention more stock on getting to L4
    Nov 8 3
    • Amazon deadbob
      OP
      Considering 50k stock refreshers from end of second year onwards vested over 4 years, you get 12.5k end of year 2, 25k end of year 3 and 37.5k end of year 4. So that's 75k more for 4 years making it about 20k per year more which would bring it close to Salesforce offer. Considering the better 401k match, etc. Google beats SF.

      Thanks for this info @woodkid!
      Nov 8
    • Apple woodkid
      Also, 15% is the mid point in some sense.
      If you get CME (consistently meets expectations), then you get 15% perf bonus. If you get exceeds/strongly exceeds, it's more.

      In that sense, your target perf bonus is not 10k, it's ~20k
      Nov 8
    • Apple woodkid
      Plus google on your resume is a much stronger brand compared to Salesforce or Microsoft. The doors it opens for you in the future in terms of levels is much more worth than the 10-20k TC difference.

      The tools, engineering practices, Calibre of people you'd be working with is night and day.

      Not everything comes down to money IMo
      Nov 8
  • Amazon sQFi87
    Salesforce probably has the best WLB
    Nov 8 2
    • Salesforce Morgoth
      Not even a question; it does.
      Nov 8
    • Salesforce Dragonfly1
      200% agree. You get time to do what you actually want to do in your life, rather than making work as your life.
      Nov 9
  • Microsoft holaaa
    No Brainer sales force
    Nov 8 0
  • Citrix Systems / Eng ಅವನೌನ ಹಡಾ
    Lol msft 😂 pretty good offer from google especially the rsu. But the base is very low. 150 in Bellevue is 180 in bay. Joint sales force for a year. And jump ship to google next year. Offer is valid right ? You get extra signon bonus of 22k for sf plus 25 for google.
    Nov 8 7
    • Citrix Systems / Eng ಅವನೌನ ಹಡಾ
      Who cares ? Innond swalpa Jump madi
      Nov 8
    • Amazon deadbob
      OP
      I get excited seeing kannada! 😊
      Nov 8
    • Salesforce heimer
      என்னடா அங்க சத்தம்?
      Nov 8
    • Salesforce / Eng shanMa
      Brilliant offers, op! Only downside with Salesforce in no refreshers. It's great otherwise. Ohana ge swagatha!
      Nov 8
    • Salesforce pursuits
      It’s Google Cloud.. if you want to do some interesting work.. if you are just looking for WLB.. Salesforce works
      Nov 8
  • IBM / Data bbWI22
    Salesforce has a higher TC, lower taxes, and higher WLB. But you’re still gonna choose google for the “prestige”
    Nov 8 3
  • That’s a crazy offer for Salesforce MTS
    Nov 8 1
    • Salesforce 0gg0
      Yeah, I'm an LMTS and my RSU grant is way lower -- albeit I'm in the DC area though
      Nov 9
  • Microsoft curious456
    Congratulations on so many great offers with leading companies. I hear at Salesforce you can grow quickly - nice career trajectory. Google is good company but less growth opportunity. Microsoft is a good company but if you’re young don’t do it. Culture not good for the young and ambitious. I say go with Salesforce. Get a ton of promotions and then later go to mast and google or some company at higher level
    Nov 8 0
  • Salesforce hdhsjsj
    250k rsu for mts is a surprise.
    Nov 8 6
    • Salesforce hdhsjsj
      Yes but read the offer details
      Nov 8
    • Salesforce JdeF47
      And then benioff biaches about equality
      Nov 8
    • Salesforce
      crmboost

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      That RSU for MTS is ridiculously high. There is no way he/she gets that. Max for MTS is 150k with all exceptions getting triggered. I am a hiring manager in Bellevue and I know what we offer even with compete offers.
      Nov 9
    • So you are saying it is fake ?
      Nov 9
    • Salesforce
      crmboost

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      The RSU are fake. I know people look at these numbers and set expectations. These are fake numbers.
      Nov 11
  • Capital One not_Rich
    I have similar google offer, with 143k base, 225k stock, 15k bonus and they are saying no way can do higher even with competing. Are u going to try and negotiate higher?
    Nov 8 2
    • Amazon deadbob
      OP
      They say I've hit the limit. Are you L3?
      Nov 8
    • Amazon deadbob
      OP
      I have another offer from Lyft same as Salesforce but they said they can't go higher even with competing offers now
      Nov 8
  • PayPal !ebay
    Interview preparation materials please?
    Nov 8 1
    • Amazon deadbob
      OP
      Leetcode for practice. Jeff Erickson's algo notes for theory.
      Nov 8
  • Microsoft HarleyQui
    Google Cloud Seattle would be better
    Nov 8 0

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