Salesmen and ridicule

Victra / Mgmt MacJM
Jul 26, 2018 20 Comments

I work in sales. Wireless sales. A while ago, a friend added me to a Facebook group for salespeople.

It was full of insurance salesmen, car salesmen and independent salespeople. I figured it’d be an all right place to get pointers and share tips and stories about customers.

Nope.

It started like that, sure, but it turned into everyone bragging about their new cars and million dollar homes and a lot of bragging about how “I’m better at sales than you are.”

Then, here I come. I post about some sales tactics I’ve used. I ask questions. I get ignored.

I make a post about some of the promos going on at my location. I figure “Hey! We’re all salespeople. And salespeople do use cell phones. So how about I help you guys out!?”

What do I get in return? I get laughed at, ridiculed and called a “bottom of the barrel salesman.” I get one person who seems interested only to find out he lives on the other side of the country and is being sarcastic.

I politely bow out of the group. This was months ago and I’m still the butt of jokes in that group from what I’ve heard.

So apparently working in technology and in wireless is a low end position and not fit to be in the same category as cars, insurance, etc.

Shouldn’t sales workers all support each other? Just a thought.

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TOP 20 Comments
  • New / Eng
    Cechtrunch

    New Eng

    BIO
    Software engineer and college student
    Cechtrunchmore
    Working at a wireless carrier selling phones isn't really working in technology
    Jul 26, 2018 0
  • Amazon 6g5t5
    TC or GTFO

    And I actually mean that, we can give you better suggestions if we can understand whether you're earning 50k or 250k.
    Jul 26, 2018 3
    • New / Eng
      Cechtrunch

      New Eng

      BIO
      Software engineer and college student
      Cechtrunchmore
      He sells cellphones at a store, TC is probably <50K
      Jul 26, 2018
    • Revinate / Data JPQ
      Sales TC is based on the product or service. Not really relevant to this discussion.
      Jul 26, 2018
    • Comcast keysersözæ
      I used to work wireless a long time ago. 18yr old making 15hr+ commission. I was making 90k tc standing around and fucking off all day. I don't think it's the same now.
      Jul 26, 2018
  • Microsoft / Product @zzz
    You the guy in tmo store whom I had to explain how advanced settings are done in an iPhone?
    Jul 26, 2018 2
    • New / Eng
      Cechtrunch

      New Eng

      BIO
      Software engineer and college student
      Cechtrunchmore
      More like the Verizon store lmaoo
      Jul 26, 2018
    • Microsoft KidEgo
      Who, not whom. If you're going to be a smartass, you need to work on the smart.
      Jul 26, 2018
  • Facebook public
    No, sales is competitive. Every sale you make is one less for someone else. There's no incentive for someone else to help you, it would hurt them.
    Jul 26, 2018 2
    • Victra / Mgmt MacJM
      OP
      Figured it’s an “I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine” thing. Different sales fields.
      Jul 26, 2018
    • Revinate / Data JPQ
      It's not zero sum if you're in the same product line, and especially if you're not.
      Jul 26, 2018
  • Revinate / Data JPQ
    Wireless sales isn't big ticket. So they were acting superior. Probably just being happy to laugh at what they once were, and also pretending they were tougher since back in the day, they did door-to-door or something.

    No worries, sales is about tactics. Join again, good way to keep you from ever being like that. There will be stuff to glean.

    As you improve, change products too. I don't know your commission structure, but sales is hard, and you should be paid well for your effort and results.
    Jul 26, 2018 1
    • Revinate / Data JPQ
      A bad car salesman is fired at the end of the month. The ones that make the cut get at least $500/sale. More for used cars. Quota can be around 20-30 cars a month depending on dealer and walk-in flow.

      Insurance people get upfronts but also can have 1-2 years of residuals, and bonuses for product/service renewal. That's why you might see phrases like "book of business" when they talk about stuff.

      Real Estate is big ticket but slow. Middle ground is stuff like refinance with loan originators.

      If you have real sales skills, i.e. don't need to tease about what is upcoming next quarter, to make sales today, then get into a tech company for sales. You'll beat everybody.
      Jul 26, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng Tier 1
    Isn’t sales a zero sum game?
    Jul 26, 2018 1
    • Victra / Mgmt MacJM
      OP
      Be that as in may, I must have a different frame of mind about it especially since it’s all different fields.
      Jul 26, 2018
  • Victra / Mgmt MacJM
    OP
    Not the point. Still working in sales.
    Jul 26, 2018 0
  • Proofpoint / Other gaaandu
    A top Enterprise software salesperson can make 500k or more.
    Jul 26, 2018 0
  • Microsoft UluturaBuk
    I know that a good big-fish salesman makes much more than IT people. You start with phones and then may end up selling some luxury stuff or big contracts.
    Jul 26, 2018 0
  • Fitbit Yonkers
    lol wireless sales, why are u here..?
    Jul 26, 2018 0
  • Amgen cld-arch
    I think you are learning that *most* sales guys are jerks and that’s why they have the reputation they do...
    Jul 26, 2018 0