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Sheryl Sandberg...victim of sexism, or really that bad?

Oracle / Design#FFF
Nov 16

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  • Salesforce rcno01
    I don't think that's sexism. She was praised when things went well, she's being blamed when things go to shit. Water is wet.
    Nov 164
    • Facebook lulz1
      To all the feminist supporters of Sheryl: No, you idiots.

      Mark is seen as a “hapless ingénue, a Silicon Valley man-boy C.E.O. still grappling with the enormity of what he built”, more negligent than malicious.

      Sandberg, 49, doesn’t enjoy the presumption of naïveté; she is the second in command as C.O.O.

      In fact it would be sexist NOT to thrash Sheryl and give her a pass because she’s a “woman”. Stop with the B.S. narrative.

      https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/11/sheryl-sandberg-facebook-feminism
      Nov 22
    • Salesforce rcno01
      Who's given her a pass because she's woman ?
      Nov 23
    • Facebook lulz1
      Duh! Calling NYT sexist for thrashing Sheryl = giving her a pass because she’s a woman.

      Here’s the answer: It means women, like men, are not representatives of a cohesive and homogenous group. Women are just as capable as men of being dishonest, dissembling, greedy, and self-interested (as well as courageous, naïve, innovative, petulant, and a series of other human characteristics). This is a depressing and ironic example of what feminists have been saying all along: women are people. Our demands for equality don’t stem from a claim that we’re better, more moral, or more ethical than men. Sandberg doesn’t say anything more about female corporate leaders than Zuckerberg does about male ones.

      But our treatment of Sandberg, and the narratives we use around women in power, tell us a lot. One story we see over and over, in business, politics, media, sports, and many other industries, is that we expect women to be better—to be more competent and more ethical, to be better communicators and more generous mentors. When we see a powerful woman behave like so many powerful men—in this case, badly, but in others, even imperfectly or with some barely perceptible flaw—we often react with twice the outrage, demand a magnified penalty, and build in a subplot - in this case, calling the NYT article sexist.
      Nov 23
    • Salesforce rcno01
      You're overthinking.
      Nov 23
  • Axtria BlindPts
    I have always hated this lady for some reason. Not someone I want to be like, she seems a shrewd lady to me, especially after her statements about love and career
    Nov 1611
    • New / EnguhYr23
      Some reason = misogyny?
      Nov 16
    • Axtria BlindPts
      Misogyny is hatred for all women, not one specific woman
      Nov 17
    • New NilUser
      Liberal nut bags’ only defense is “misogyny” you sad pathetic things.
      Nov 17
    • New / EnguhYr23
      Misogyny is magnified when seeing poweful women. Give some examples of powerful women people like.
      Nov 17
    • Axtria BlindPts
      Oprah Winfrey, Michelle Obama, Indra Nooyi
      Nov 17
    • New / EnguhYr23
      Michelle Obama has not achieved anything. Her biggest achievement was to have sex with Barack. Oprah was tv celebrity, the type of popularity that an actress gets, which is different from being a tech exec or politician.
      Nov 17
    • Microsoft ThisOrThat
      Oprah created an empire coming from a meager beginning has almost double the net worth of Sheryl sandberg

      The heck are you talking about
      Nov 22
    • New / EnguhYr23
      This doesn't count once you reach fame and critical mass on audience and followers. What I'm talking about is how they started from the bottom.
      Nov 22
    • Microsoft ThisOrThat
      Where else did she start from?

      Certainly a lot lower than Sandburg
      Nov 22
    • Facebook lulz1
      I sense that people see Sheryl as fake in general. Why do you think so? I’d like to understand. Is it because she’s always talking like the token senior diversity and feminist advocate and building her brand around that? For example even when her husband died, the first thing she did is try to see how it can help her brand - she used it for PR as a story of resilience and lessons for women and wrote a book and gave speeches! Or is it because she isn’t doing technical interviews and doesn’t demonstrate competence about Facebook’s operating business the way other COOs usually do? She isn’t seen as an intellectual thought leader, and so doesn’t garner any respect. It appears as though she conned her way into that position and uses politics to stay there.
      Nov 22
  • Apple / EngIron Hide
    Fire her before she starts writing a new book about her dead husband.
    Nov 163
    • Qualcomm
      Chad_comm

      Qualcomm

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      Chad_commmore
      she already has one out... Option B: Facing Adversity, Building Resilience, and Finding Joy.
      Nov 17
    • IBM optibee
      Lol. Fire her? She's gonna put up a #metoo on zuck and bring fb to the ground.
      Nov 17
    • Facebook lulz1
      ^ SJW feminism is cancer.

      Sheryl always talks like the token senior diversity and feminist advocate and selfishly builds her brand around that? For example even when her husband died, the first thing she did is try to see how it can help her brand - she used it for PR as a story of resilience and lessons for women and wrote a book and gave speeches! She isn’t demonstrating any technical competence as C.O.O. and never talks about Facebook’s operating business the way other COOs usually do as thought leaders.
      Nov 22
  • Facebook Hello worl
    Some people need someone to hate
    Nov 161
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

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      - Mitt Romney
      Nov 17
  • New / Engwhatsuppp
    Why all of a sudden the media starts to defame Facebook all at the same time? Who is behind this?

    I enjoy reading The Times but this raises a red flag on me.
    Nov 163
    • SAP dwEC83
      Soros! who else? Didn't u read what was wtitten on him?
      Nov 17
    • FB literally was discovered paying for PR agencies to report any criticism of FB as coming from Soros and anti-semitics. Looks like SAP fell for FB PR
      Nov 17
    • Facebook hollyhoe
      Looks like Uber fell for NYT PR.
      Nov 17
  • Google / Salesshavi
    So...what is the point of this article??
    Nov 161
    • Facebook lulz1
      Here’s the answer: It means women, like men, are not representatives of a cohesive and homogenous group. Women are just as capable as men of being dishonest, dissembling, greedy, and self-interested (as well as courageous, naïve, innovative, petulant, and a series of other human characteristics). This is a depressing and ironic example of what feminists have been saying all along: women are people. Our demands for equality don’t stem from a claim that we’re better, more moral, or more ethical than men. Sandberg doesn’t say anything more about female corporate leaders than Zuckerberg does about male ones.

      But our treatment of Sandberg, and the narratives we use around women in power, tell us a lot. One story we see over and over, in business, politics, media, sports, and many other industries, is that we expect women to be better—to be more competent and more ethical, to be better communicators and more generous mentors. When we see a powerful woman behave like so many powerful men—in this case, badly, but in others, even imperfectly or with some barely perceptible flaw—we often react with twice the outrage, demand a magnified penalty, and build in a subplot - in this case, calling the NYT article sexist.
      Nov 22
  • PeerStreet / Other
    Q7ah2eW7

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    Q7ah2eW7more
    She is a classic example of a sociopath (maybe even psychopath?)

    I would not want to get in her crosshairs.
    Nov 171
    • Facebook lulz1
      Watch: she’ll make this into a PR stunt too. “Story of adversity, resilience and overcoming crisis”. She’ll build it into her brand, write a book and give speeches!
      Nov 23
  • eBay fuab1
    Elizabeth holmes, marissa Mayer and this.
    Nov 163
    • Oracle / Design#FFF
      OP
      Holmes is a criminal. Mayer had great abilities in a certain type of role and had little chance of success at Yahoo, but some of her behavior worked against her. Wasn’t necessarily fair, but if she wanted to position herself as being able to do the impossible, she needed to do way better than she did.

      With Sandberg, it all still ladders up to Zuck. He warrants the hate I think.
      Nov 17
    • Salesforce rcno01
      That's sexist. Holmes is a criminal, Mayer did okay.

      Yahoo was worth way more when she left than when she got there and Yahoo got an okay exit considering the company was mediocre even before she started there.

      Sheryl was one of the operational leaders behind the growth of FB. She will psssibly have to take the blame for Zuck though.
      Nov 17
    • Facebook lulz1
      To all the feminist supporters of Sheryl: No, you idiots.

      Mark is seen as a “hapless ingénue, a Silicon Valley man-boy C.E.O. still grappling with the enormity of what he built”, more negligent than malicious.

      Sandberg, 49, doesn’t enjoy the presumption of naïveté; she is the second in command as C.O.O.

      In fact it would be sexist NOT to thrash Sheryl and give her a pass because she’s a “woman”. Stop with the B.S. narrative.

      https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/11/sheryl-sandberg-facebook-feminism
      Nov 23
  • Oracle / Design#FFF
    OP
    She’s the new Hillary!
    Nov 161
  • Facebook Etiys
    NYT is definitely the hotbed of sexism now :-)
    Nov 162
    • Bloomberg MSGSlayer
      Blatant misogyny.
      Nov 17
    • Facebook lulz1
      No, calling NYT sexist is the real misogyny here. See my comment above..
      Nov 23
  • Facebook Maron
    I blame uber.
    Nov 161
    • Facebook Etiys
      Delay, Deflect, Deny? Been working out well, lol.
      Nov 16
  • Apple csOE05
    Watch Sandberg interviews and see that she is a snake. She steers around questions like a pro and gives fake smiles. She has a very fake and unlikeable personality. Remember she is shielded from any criticism against her by automatically labeling them as sexist and anti-Semitic
    Nov 230
  • LimeBike mueller44
    Listen to this podcast episode... it’s enlightening about how she handled the entire security scandal/issues at FB. She got mad that the head of security even was looking for these vulnerabilities https://open.spotify.com/episode/1btAMVOUz84PyNBd4q6rw7?si=QmlQ-vfoT_62neevHlqx6g
    Nov 270
  • Microsoft / Product@zzz
    A little bit I think. Also because she is rather famous for a non ceo. Media likes name recognition.

    But all said and done the buck stops at zuck. He makes the calls and ultimately responsible for all these fuck ups.
    Nov 160

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