American Dream for me is:
1. Want to live in west part of US (Seattle, California, etc)
2. Want to get decent pay with out having to count every dollar I spend.
3. Want to have a family with 0 or 1 kid.
4. want to own a big 5/6 bedroom house with a back yard (very important)
5. Want to own one premium luxury car, one crappy car to play with and one motor bike for fun.
6. Want to be able to take at least 2 big vacations per year
7. Want to go out every weekend (bars, dinners, movies, road trips, etc)
8. Want to retire between 50 to 60 with enough funds saved for a quality retirement life.
I'm an Indian currently on H1B visa. I know Green card is just a dream that'll never come true for me. I'm almost 29 with TC $150k in Seattle.
Given my age, visa restrictions and TC (assuming it'll progress over time), is that even possible ? Am I being realistic ? or Should I just give up and go back to India ?
Any suggestions/ strategies on how to make my dream a reality ? Pls don't troll. I'm looking for some good advices here...
American Dream for me is:
- Think whether you truly need it (instead of accessing a Gym outside). Lot of our desires are manufactured (seeing friends, highlighted as "successful" in movies, advertising, etc). If you can restrict your desires, you might get closer to something better than the so called American dream. If you want a better passport, just move to Canada, it truly gives you a lot of advantage. But chasing a 5 bedroom house is just a futile endeavor. You'll be surprised to know you'll be miserable after that too, if you've not learnt how to take control of your happiness, instead of just chasing things.
America brought about this idea of chasing. Spending and overspending and trying to one up one another. Do you think it has done wonders? Don't get brainwashed and take control of your mind.
My $0.02.Jun 8 5
- Happiness should be enjoying the ride that is life. You'll have sad parts when things don't go according to plan (losing people, health, breakups, etc) but other than that, happiness is just celebrating life.
That doesn't mean you cannot be AMBITIOUS. You can certainly desire those vacations and cars, but not at the cost of happiness. I know it's easier said than done but if you don't do it, the cycle of wants will never stop. Instead of a 5 bedroom house, probably try for a 3 bedroom but better relationship with family? Or think about why you need what you need.
If you need the security of being abroad, you need a citizenship. But if you just want to have a gym in your house today, tomorrow you'd wish for a private boat too. If that was the case, everyone who's rich would be "living the dream" and be happy.
Also, it's important to have perspective and be thankful. Do you sit and wonder about the geographical lottery you won (to be able to come to America, or have parents who could educate you). Imagine if you were born somewhere that reaching here was impossible (a reality for billions). So in a sense, you are living the dream of probably 80 or 90% of the world.Jun 8 9
- There is no concept of an American dream today, even for American citizens. If you don't get a green card, this is just too flaky and could be grabbed from you at any point. US does not want business owning/leading wealthy permanent immigrants from India, and that is the plain truth. They made that mistake for two generations leading to Vinod Khosla, Satya Nadella, Sundar and others. They will not make that mistake again.
Luckily for you, India and China are also where the next 40 years of wealth creation will happen. You could be a rando in Canada, US Mid-West, wherever, or you could be a somebody in India.
Canada is in “America” the continent. Don’t live in Toronto/Vancouver and you’ll easily afford the BMW 3 series and 6 bedroom house. Otherwise you’ll have to step up the TC/leetcode game significantly
- Gunna be honest w you since most of the things on your list are what I’m seeking as well:
I only say that because you will have to settle in many aspects you listed because your TC just simply isn’t large enough. With respects to your age/salary you will have to forgo many things. Just my opinion. I’m not being pessimistic, just realistic. If you become a successful CEO then yes all the things you listed are doable. Working for someone else however: will not happen until maybe you’re 60.
Source: I’m in the same boat w/ less TC.
- Finale Inventory / Eng huHG50Also nothing wrong with not getting everything you dream about. 150k is a lot more than a majority of Americans make. I may have big dreams too that are unlikely to come true but even my 106k salary is still a lot of money. Making a six figure income is a dream for a lot of people in America.Jun 8 4
- Google verysundarWell, you have completed 1.
2. Not many reach this stage regardless of where they were born.
3. For this, well you know what to do, nothing to do with America.
4. Well, this one is real, but you can surely reach there in around 10 years with some planning.
5. Premium luxury, you can buy decent enough car - model 3. Well for lambo and Ferraris, all of us need to work hard.
6. What do you mean by big? 6 months each. Well no. But you can definitely do couple of weeks twice.
7. There are ways to do without spending tons of money.
8. Start now and save each month, invest well. By 60 you should have enough balance.
TC: more than a lot of people.
I don't have a problem with your dream, but the your dream is based on the shitty Bollywood movies that you have seen growing up. World is much different and complex than those movies. I would just say reevaluate your dreams to understand how many of them are what you really want and discard those that are just there because you feel it's cool.
All the best. One day we will all make it.
- Atlassian d@t_personStay single and no kids and knock the house to a 2 bedroom condo and u are there!!!!
- VMware / Eng op1I knew you were an Indian the moment you mentioned the motorcycle. :-)
Jokes aside you can definitely live your dream.
- Google GentrifiedProbably the only way to get all that you desire is via the startup route that becomes a unicorn. This option assumes you get on a faster visa track, especially if you can get on L1A or start your own firm and qualify for Entrepreneurs visa. Read this: https://www.fundera.com/blog/entrepreneur-visas
- SpaceX uevh5Oh boy.... I have all of that (except a bike, cause I don't want one, and my house is a 3 bedroom one). You think I am happy? I feel like shit all the time.
- Give up on #1. Retire at 55 after making a consistent TC of at least $300k for 30 years. Move out to the Midwest and accomplish the rest of your goals using your savings.
- I am already living the same dream without the house. Happy family of 2, planning for kids. Living in 1 bed rent controlled apartment. Partying every weekend. Car and a bike. Several vaccations a year, with friends, parents and some as a couple. Heated swimming pool, jacuzzi in community. Joined a gym with personal trainer. I dont need a house even when kid comes along. This space is more than enough for us.