Should I go to Snap？

Amazon LkKy44
Jan 4 207 Comments

I got offer from Airbnb, Uber, Pinterest all SDEII. But Snap give me senior title and 25% more total comp comparing to those companies, real cash and stock. I have not problem with the team.

But Snap can just survive another 12 months right? Die or become profitable. I am struggle.

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  • My gut instinct says Snap will be acquired by Facebook soon
    Jan 4 9
    • Hubspot / Biz Dev
      hubspot

      Hubspot Biz Dev

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       hubspotmore
      Snap will not get acquired by FB for two reasons. 1) They're under heat and don't want to appear like a TOTAL monopoly by acquiring Snap.
      2) They don't need to, and it doesn't make sense strategically. From a product standpoint they've copied Snap entirely. Most Snap users already use Insta and/or WhatsApp.
      Jan 5
    • Uber taxify
      Tiktok merge is the name of the game
      Jan 5
    • Microsoft unclewig
      Funny how the so called unknown company made 85% of Facebook revenues last quarter.
      Jan 5
    • Microsoft unclewig
      Damn, Facebook guy deleted the comment about tencent being known only to Chinese.
      Jan 5
    • Lyft swetool
      We about about the big China tech co, just don’t use them
      Jan 5
  • New monomo
    Snap is crap. Basically a dying product with no seriousness beyond appealing to teenage kids. Go to Uber
    Jan 4 8
    • Snapchat tokimonsta
      Lol, your reply just confirmed it
      Jan 5
    • New monomo
      While you confirmed you're just a silly fucking kid.
      Jan 5
    • Gusto 104702759
      Cringe
      Jan 5
    • New / R&D
      JohnMcPop'

      New R&D

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       JohnMcPop'more
      Cringe maxxx
      Jan 6
    • New / R&D
      JohnMcPop'

      New R&D

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       JohnMcPop'more
      Where is this comment section? Are we in kindergarten
      Jan 6
  • Cisco Eyeh
    Go to Snap. stock can triple in a year if they do things right and if it grows more internationally. Snap will survive 12 more months . There may be lay-offs though. Work your butt off and you will be in a good position in 2-3 years .
    Jan 4 6
    • Snapchat tokimonsta
      +1, with snap you will get more risk and way more upside. I think the stock has bottomed out at this point
      Jan 5
    • Microsoft Jeph Bezos
      This guy has no clue about what he’s talking about. Nobody knows with any certainty that “snap will triple in a year.” Even less so with the potential correction around the corner.
      Jan 5
    • Intuit PureGuava
      Bezos, look at what you wrote in quotes and look at what he actually wrote.
      Jan 5
    • Google L7@AWS
      If you're so certain the stock will 3x, you can just buy snap stock. No need to work there
      Jan 5
    • Yelp capKirk
      Worst advise. Even after failure of 2 versions of snap specs, ceo doesn't give up on the idea.
      No smart executive wants to work there or is continuing to work there. No hope
      Jan 5
  • Snapchat MondayFun
    Don't come. It is a shitshow.
    Jan 5 4
    • Snapchat
      Jaw$

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       Jaw$more
      Sounds like a grumpy x employee
      Jan 5
    • Snapchat MondayFun
      Sounds like an HR troll.
      Jan 5
    • Snapchat
      Jaw$

      Snapchat

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       Jaw$more
      Well, I’m not in HR... but I’d say it’s clear you’re the troll here.
      Jan 5
    • New / Eng eggz
      Eye roll
      Jan 5
  • Google fuME07
    I recently left snap. Bad culture and an immature ceo. Headwinds with the economic downturn will not help and stretch recovery timelines if there is any recovery. I would avoid it unless you like playing lottery or want to live in LA.
    Jan 5 1
    • Snapchat left
      I'm going to leave soon.
      Jan 13
  • Square / Eng SQ
    Hahaha you're thinking about a "senior title"?

    Titles are meaningless.
    Jan 4 6
    • Square / Eng SQ
      TC is legitimate. Considering because of a title absolutely is not.
      Jan 5
    • TC doesn't show on a resume for your next position, title does
      Jan 5
    • Square / Eng SQ
      Senior engineer at a 20 person startup < mid-level at FANG. Not to mention title inflation out there that startups say people is an architect with 1.5 years.

      Anyone competent will know that titles are meaningless. I can go to a 5 person start up to give me CTO. Does that mean I have the same experience and calibur of Facebook's CTO?
      Jan 5
    • Amazon BottomOTop
      Snap is not a 5 person startup lol
      Jan 6
    • Square / Eng SQ
      Whoosh.
      Jan 6
  • Snapchat gqkO66
    I work at snap. Cons: a very vey small tools team, no devops, no process, and a cultish onboarding. Pros: if you have the ambition, the guts, and the persuasiveness, you can do anything you want
    As for TC—you don’t come to snap for the tc. The stock is a shitshow and everyone knows it. You come bc you can kick ass. You come because IG and Tiktok are fighting you. Otherwise go somewhere safer
    Jan 5 3
    • Microsoft / Eng Tier 1
      Cultish on boarding?
      Jan 5
    • VMware hubbahub
      IG and Tiktok fighting you? Ha there literally is no comparison at this point
      Jan 6
    • Uber DyJKbcf
      You are fighting ig not the other way around
      Jan 7
  • Dell LMA🌚
    Yolo. Go snap. Their stock might 0-5x while the other companies won't.
    Jan 5 3
    • Shutterstock kudabobb
      Especially might 0x for sure
      Jan 5
    • Microsoft / Eng Tier 1
      If that happens you can quit.
      Jan 5
    • Google / Eng catburglar
      That's a lot to invest in snap.
      Jan 5
  • Snapchat
    Jaw$

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     Jaw$more
    I also work at Snap. You’re getting an amazing number of shares at an extra discounted price. Look at the Sr executives we’ve recently hired. Look at our revenue generation. This company may not go to the moon anymore, but 3-5x is well over 50% chance in 2-3 years. All we have to do is get the new android release right and problems are solved. Take a slight risk (you still get paid and have monthly vesting) for a huge potential upside.
    Jan 5 4
    • Microsoft MMKy42
      Your Android app has been shit for years. Many, many years.
      Jan 5
    • Fitbit jRn41
      As an Android engineer, I whole heartedly agree. It's a laggy shit show on even the pixel 3xl.
      Jan 5
    • VMware hubbahub
      “Extra discounted price”? Are you high?
      Jan 6
    • New mbzqfi
      Someone is drinking the Kool-aid.

      No new release is going to turn things around. People are already using IG with the same functionality of Snap. No reason to go back to Snap.
      Jan 6
  • Facebook skankhuntt
    Airbnb does not have interesting projects to work on. If you want to learn and grow - choose Snap or Uber.
    Jan 5 6
    • Wayfair 1234abc123
      Says the guy from PayPal? 🤨
      Jan 5
    • Nvidia / Eng Mr.XoXo
      PayPal guy criticising LinkedIn lol
      Jan 5
    • Yelp capKirk
      It's evident PayPal guy is salty about the high comp
      Jan 5
    • Uber / Other Travesty
      PayPal is the worst POS
      Jan 5
    • MuleSoft Damndaniel
      Paypal guy wants to make Paypal great again!
      Jan 5
  • Do NOT join snap.. it will literally snap your career
    Jan 5 1
  • Spotify ionic
    Snap leadership trusts their gut over data. They think they're all the next Steve Jobs.

    They aren't and the product they did innovate on got slaughtered by fast copy cats. They're Kodak only without the decades of success.

    I'd avoid at all costs. Way better upside in the alternatives.
    Jan 5 2
    • Sage / Sales
      khCi60

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       khCi60more
      A bit extreme. I think you meant to say they were leading in innovation and Facebook just completely stole their UI and used their monopoly market position to put those features into Instagram. Which is why IG is growing and facebooks core is losing users. Facebook is very ripe for having some mergers undone by the justice department. Only time will tell but many are saying this will happen
      Jan 5
    • Spotify ionic
      If Facebook gets broken up, that means all of FAANG (except for N? ) need to be broken up too. If that happens, we'd be in a radically different economic world than we are today.

      Snapchat went public as a hardware company. If they are, they're a failed HW company with a dying app keeping them alive for a few years waiting for lightning to strike twice.
      Jan 5
  • Amazon Redux
    I would avoid Snap, it never got mainstream with millennials like IG did. I think 70% of the user base is probably high school kids.
    Jan 4 5
    • Amazon LkKy44
      OP
      The money is attracting though...
      Jan 4
    • Amazon Redux
      Your TC could be 0 if Snap goes bad though. Job security is king.
      Jan 4
    • Amazon LkKy44
      OP
      you are right... But if that’s the case I should stay in Amazon I guess.
      Jan 4
    • Amazon Redux
      If you are in AWS and not an LE, then yeah you have unlimited job security. But everyone knows it is almost impossible to get the L6 promo here, so most of us end up leaving.

      Airbnb and Uber are honestly pretty safe. At least for both you can say that you believe in the product. I don’t think much people can say that about Snap.
      Jan 4
    • Amazon / Eng
      aJib78

      Amazon Eng

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       aJib78more
      LE?
      Jan 5
  • New / R&D zorkan
    Idk man. I heard the holiday party sucked this year.
    Jan 4 1
    • LinkedIn j6sr2
      You mean Dave and Busters?
      Jan 5
  • Facebook / Data Jeef Besus
    Snap has higher upside for sure. I would work there if product decisions were more data driven.
    Jan 5 6
    • VMware hubbahub
      Wu1212 stop trying to make your company seem legit. It is going in flames
      Jan 6
    • Facebook / Data Jeef Besus
      How do teams make decisions at Snap?
      Jan 6
    • Snapchat wu1212
      2 of the top 10 apps in app store and google play belong to snap( bitmoji and snapchat) things are far better than what outsiders try to make you believe. Most of client side features come from design team and hackathons. We have a much more rigorous set of small A/B tests now before we fully launch a new product. This is to make sure we never make the same mistakes that we made last year from aggressive and sudden UI changes. Designers are still very aggressive to push for innovation but user impact is a much higher priority for any product launch.
      Jan 8
    • Facebook / Data Jeef Besus
      ‘Most client side features come from design team’, what influence do non designers have on this? Also is A/B testing mostly just to ensure things don’t break? So essentially analysts are data monkeys?
      Jan 8
    • Uber dogisbad
      data driven is just dumb stats driven and ass driven...
      Jan 9
  • Uber broforce
    You will be the first to let go if lay offs happen in Snap. Keep that in mind. With that said, if you don't have visa issues and are confident of interviewing again- go Snap
    Jan 5 4
    • Dell LMA🌚
      Why would he be the first to be let go? Don't they usually prune the super seniors who are overpaid?
      Jan 5
    • Amazon / Mgmt
      DEPk35

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       DEPk35more
      Last in, first out is a typical cutting strategy
      Jan 6
    • Microsoft laalaaland
      Snap doesn’t have this old fat cat like Microsoft or google or other big tech, so of course they will cut those new people
      Jan 6
    • Microsoft yfthvttdg
      True
      Jan 6
  • Microsoft PuMT64
    Had two friends who joined and got laid off couple months later. Be careful.
    Jan 5 2
  • Axon / HR
    Habcyeozmw

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     Habcyeozmwmore
    Snap IS crap. First hand information
    Jan 4 1
    • Amazon LkKy44
      OP
      could you share more first hand information？
      Jan 4
  • Microsoft liveordie
    No, snap might not last 2 years.
    Jan 5 0
  • Facebook AyyoLeMayo
    People keep comparing snapchat to facebook and say there is potential for it to rebound like the post IPO $FB. They have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

    Facebook is doing everything they can to destroy Snapchat, and snapchats profits and active users are suffering as a result. Facebook was in the opposite of such a situation when it IPO’d, and had excellent management in place, which allowed it to grow rapidly.

    Thinking that snapchat will do a 180 rebound with such awful management is naive and stupidity. The only monetization strategy they have is to pull a moviepass and keep issuing stock to prevent insolvency.
    Jan 6 10
    • Facebook AyyoLeMayo
      Company stock is tanking because it makes money? Go take a look at snapchat’s stock price, or even dropbox’s stock before you say something senseless like that.
      Jan 7
    • Dropbox klj
      It's tanking because FB has no shame in stealing ideas and leaking user data, and its employees are proud of the wrong doing. That's why it's tanking even when it's making money. Imagine when FB doesn't continue the revenue stream...
      Jan 7
    • Facebook AyyoLeMayo
      Nope, FB is tanking because of broad market tanking and legal/privacy risk potentially affecting growth.

      I guess dropbox is tanking because its employees are financially illiterate?
      Jan 7
    • Dropbox klj
      Please remind me why there is legal/privacy risk. Because it does immoral things such as leaking user data and stealing ideas.
      Jan 7
    • Facebook and Instagram will tank because they built a platform for CONSUMERS free speech and therefore freedom to leverage in terms of a revenue pipeline. Brands are learning fast that the best way to spend ad dollars is to spend with the users on the Facebook and Instagram platforms (who make those two companies ZERO profit) and deliver far better and quality conversion results to their clients and also offer a pool of unlimited authentic and emotionally connected ad-solutions and and scalable revenue pipelines through the version of true digital WOM. Meaning - Facebook wasn’t created to make money and so they had to improvise and they sold away their soul and billions of others souls and privacy (without legal right) to companies with questionable intent. Bottom line is - the reason for this big risk and raw recklessness is because the cannibalization of Facebook and Instagram profits was occurring within their own platforms by the people they created the platforms for. Therefore - the past 3 years have been a war of Facebook vs their users for claiming ongoing ad-spend loyalty.

      The moment Facebook sold away the information of their consumers is the moment they knew they would be taken down by the people they claimed the platform was there to serve with great purpose of connection. All a lie and instead of empowering the users to grow and scale, they empowered themselves to b2b and through negligence of content monitoring and reckless decisions to prioritize their own stock price and revenue vs. the entire mission and purpose of the company.

      Anyone who uses Facebook still - You have lost the battle but can win the war and bail out now. Their stock should reflect the quality it brings to consumers lives and the positive cultural impact on the world - WHICH IS TERRIBLE and a brand like snap truly deserves to be on top considering Facebook also ripped off all of their ideas. If I had to pick tomorrow - snap all day long and screw Facebook for misrepresenting themselves from the moment Mark Zuckerberg got a taste of power. He is poison and doesn’t even realize it.
      Jan 8