I got offer from Airbnb, Uber, Pinterest all SDEII. But Snap give me senior title and 25% more total comp comparing to those companies, real cash and stock. I have not problem with the team.
But Snap can just survive another 12 months right? Die or become profitable. I am struggle.
- Hubspot / Biz DevhubspotmoreSnap will not get acquired by FB for two reasons. 1) They're under heat and don't want to appear like a TOTAL monopoly by acquiring Snap.
2) They don't need to, and it doesn't make sense strategically. From a product standpoint they've copied Snap entirely. Most Snap users already use Insta and/or WhatsApp.Jan 511
- Snap is crap. Basically a dying product with no seriousness beyond appealing to teenage kids. Go to Uber
- Cisco EyehGo to Snap. stock can triple in a year if they do things right and if it grows more internationally. Snap will survive 12 more months . There may be lay-offs though. Work your butt off and you will be in a good position in 2-3 years .
- Google fuME07I recently left snap. Bad culture and an immature ceo. Headwinds with the economic downturn will not help and stretch recovery timelines if there is any recovery. I would avoid it unless you like playing lottery or want to live in LA.
- Senior engineer at a 20 person startup < mid-level at FANG. Not to mention title inflation out there that startups say people is an architect with 1.5 years.
Anyone competent will know that titles are meaningless. I can go to a 5 person start up to give me CTO. Does that mean I have the same experience and calibur of Facebook's CTO?
- Snapchat gqkO66I work at snap. Cons: a very vey small tools team, no devops, no process, and a cultish onboarding. Pros: if you have the ambition, the guts, and the persuasiveness, you can do anything you want
As for TC—you don’t come to snap for the tc. The stock is a shitshow and everyone knows it. You come bc you can kick ass. You come because IG and Tiktok are fighting you. Otherwise go somewhere safer
- I also work at Snap. You’re getting an amazing number of shares at an extra discounted price. Look at the Sr executives we’ve recently hired. Look at our revenue generation. This company may not go to the moon anymore, but 3-5x is well over 50% chance in 2-3 years. All we have to do is get the new android release right and problems are solved. Take a slight risk (you still get paid and have monthly vesting) for a huge potential upside.
- Facebook skankhunttAirbnb does not have interesting projects to work on. If you want to learn and grow - choose Snap or Uber.
- There are so many things wrong with the airbnb product ..... bad UX, ass logo .... my guts says it’s just a bunch of high paid people many of whom do not know how to create a simple product right .... it’s the same guy feeling I had with LinkedIn and it’s why I would avoid airbnb if that’s an option
- I would avoid Snap, it never got mainstream with millennials like IG did. I think 70% of the user base is probably high school kids.
- If you are in AWS and not an LE, then yeah you have unlimited job security. But everyone knows it is almost impossible to get the L6 promo here, so most of us end up leaving.
Airbnb and Uber are honestly pretty safe. At least for both you can say that you believe in the product. I don’t think much people can say that about Snap.
- Snap leadership trusts their gut over data. They think they're all the next Steve Jobs.
They aren't and the product they did innovate on got slaughtered by fast copy cats. They're Kodak only without the decades of success.
I'd avoid at all costs. Way better upside in the alternatives.
- A bit extreme. I think you meant to say they were leading in innovation and Facebook just completely stole their UI and used their monopoly market position to put those features into Instagram. Which is why IG is growing and facebooks core is losing users. Facebook is very ripe for having some mergers undone by the justice department. Only time will tell but many are saying this will happen
- If Facebook gets broken up, that means all of FAANG (except for N? ) need to be broken up too. If that happens, we'd be in a radically different economic world than we are today.
Snapchat went public as a hardware company. If they are, they're a failed HW company with a dying app keeping them alive for a few years waiting for lightning to strike twice.
- Snap has higher upside for sure. I would work there if product decisions were more data driven.
- 2 of the top 10 apps in app store and google play belong to snap( bitmoji and snapchat) things are far better than what outsiders try to make you believe. Most of client side features come from design team and hackathons. We have a much more rigorous set of small A/B tests now before we fully launch a new product. This is to make sure we never make the same mistakes that we made last year from aggressive and sudden UI changes. Designers are still very aggressive to push for innovation but user impact is a much higher priority for any product launch.Jan 83
- Uber broforceYou will be the first to let go if lay offs happen in Snap. Keep that in mind. With that said, if you don't have visa issues and are confident of interviewing again- go Snap
- Had two friends who joined and got laid off couple months later. Be careful.
- they were both laid off in last year's april layoff round.
- People keep comparing snapchat to facebook and say there is potential for it to rebound like the post IPO $FB. They have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
Facebook is doing everything they can to destroy Snapchat, and snapchats profits and active users are suffering as a result. Facebook was in the opposite of such a situation when it IPO’d, and had excellent management in place, which allowed it to grow rapidly.
Thinking that snapchat will do a 180 rebound with such awful management is naive and stupidity. The only monetization strategy they have is to pull a moviepass and keep issuing stock to prevent insolvency.
- Oath WsxedcrfvtFacebook and Instagram will tank because they built a platform for CONSUMERS free speech and therefore freedom to leverage in terms of a revenue pipeline. Brands are learning fast that the best way to spend ad dollars is to spend with the users on the Facebook and Instagram platforms (who make those two companies ZERO profit) and deliver far better and quality conversion results to their clients and also offer a pool of unlimited authentic and emotionally connected ad-solutions and and scalable revenue pipelines through the version of true digital WOM. Meaning - Facebook wasn’t created to make money and so they had to improvise and they sold away their soul and billions of others souls and privacy (without legal right) to companies with questionable intent. Bottom line is - the reason for this big risk and raw recklessness is because the cannibalization of Facebook and Instagram profits was occurring within their own platforms by the people they created the platforms for. Therefore - the past 3 years have been a war of Facebook vs their users for claiming ongoing ad-spend loyalty.
The moment Facebook sold away the information of their consumers is the moment they knew they would be taken down by the people they claimed the platform was there to serve with great purpose of connection. All a lie and instead of empowering the users to grow and scale, they empowered themselves to b2b and through negligence of content monitoring and reckless decisions to prioritize their own stock price and revenue vs. the entire mission and purpose of the company.
Anyone who uses Facebook still - You have lost the battle but can win the war and bail out now. Their stock should reflect the quality it brings to consumers lives and the positive cultural impact on the world - WHICH IS TERRIBLE and a brand like snap truly deserves to be on top considering Facebook also ripped off all of their ideas. If I had to pick tomorrow - snap all day long and screw Facebook for misrepresenting themselves from the moment Mark Zuckerberg got a taste of power. He is poison and doesn’t even realize it.Jan 82
- Congratulation. They all seem great options. For all the people that say snap is dead, please check top apps of app store and google play store. I have seen this pattern in the last decade across many companies. When FB ipo’ed still for awhile market said it is a fad or the profits are not sustainable and the stock went down initially. The writing is on the wall! You will regret not coming to snap in future more than any other company in your list. Your second best bet is airbnb at 31B valuations. What do you think are the odds of airbnb 5x its market cap vs snap at 7B market cap?!
- Snapchat will likely need to dilute the stock to prevent the company from going under, it’s burning money and losing users. There’s a reason it is at a quarter of its IPO price. Nobody believes in its management, monetization strategy, and competition is pushing snap out, go look at your user growth.
- Uber pJwt18Come to Uber — just started and enjoy it. Snap was one of the offers I turned down when joining. Keep in mind that the stock is having a rough time and the company isn’t paying out bonuses.
- Medtronic / EngSnakeDrTake the title and the money, snap will be fine for at least a year, then you can always look elsewhere if your unhappy
- Autodesk dunkinDsGo to snap, the stock has a lot of upward potential. One great Android release and they have atleast a billion more users to cash out on in India and Africa combined. If that doesn’t work out in a year or two you can always jump, you made it to these companies once you can do it again.
Anecdotal evidence: people using snap and insta both tend to be more open and outgoing on snap and kind of apprehensive of insta (no bobs and vagene on insta anymore 😂)
- Snapchat / Engcamera-coMake sure that the offer is actually as high as you think it is. The stock price you'd be getting is the trailing two month average of your start date, where as at pre ipo companies that price would be static.
- LinkedIn / OtherOracleOfOmmoreWorst case they get bought out by Amazon and now you're a level higher right? Can't imagine 186M DAUs are just going to force them to close up shop. Feels like a no brainier with comp and opportunity to actually do legitimate work instead of getting lost in the org chart elsewhere, my $0.02.
- Followed up with a friend of mine who recently joined Snap. Evidently, they also gave him a large 6 month rsu grant, in addition to his original grant. Basically told him to try it out for 6 months and if he leaves, he gets to keep all the $$$. Helps w/ risk and bigger upside if things go well.
- Intel TelusI'd go even if its for a year or 2, especially with title and higher TC. The biggest factor is whether you want to live in LA. Either way, it can be the jump off point to next step in career and make as much $$ as you can. Or if Snap successful, stay. Its win win.
- Microsoft Mr.XI won’t recommend Snap, they give huge offers because many people are leaving and the stock is dying, if you only care about money for a short term take the risk. Also You could use their offer to negotiate with Uber( I see it is the only thing that makes sense in this list)