Should I move to uber?

Google ammyy
Jun 17, 2018 36 Comments

Currently working at Google as L5. Feeling a little frustrated by the boring work and politics but would like to say it's still tolerable to me. Now it's my 4th year and yes there will be cliff on my TC soon. Also due to multiple reasons I am feeling extremely burnout so I spent some time to have a couple interviews to try my luck.

Got an offer from Pinterest. Number looks good but they refuse to uplevel. Heard that Pinterest is moving slowly and having a pretty similar culture to Google. Not a huge fan of that frankly speaking.

Also got an offer from Uber with sr2 title. Recruiter said that the price per share will increase if I could not make a decision at the day I interviewed and got offer but I was just not able to make it within a couple hours based on the number. So I think I have already missed a very good opportunity. However the number is much lower than Pinterest's, if we can directly compare these two.

Now the question: based in the new valuation should I still try to make a round of argument, or should I just let it go? Also, how's Uber sr2 targeting at F/G levelling? Is it equivalent to level 6 or not?

Numbers:

Base 197k
Bonus 30k
Stock 640k for 4 years
Target refresh 140k

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

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  • Uber Acbqoizft
    The Uber recruiter was lying to you, dont feel pressured by their cheap tactics. They are notorious for lying. New ceo cant change the dna of the company.
    Jun 18, 2018 3
    • Uber Ballerina
      What? You sound like a disgruntled ex-employee. I am an EM who can confirm, to the best estimate, that target refresh amount.
      Jun 18, 2018
    • Uber tippings
      Nonsense. Total garbage
      Jun 20, 2018
    • Uber tippings
      Acbqoizft not ballerina
      Jun 20, 2018
  • Uber DOwW76
    Just don't regret having to actually work pretty hard, and they don't look.after employees like.google.does so you.might have a shock. It's still a startup, lots of projects with impact, elevate coming soon, eats is booming. Comp is shit at Uber, you don't come for the money. But if stock get to $150 in the next 3 years that's nice.
    Jun 17, 2018 2
    • Google ammyy
      OP
      Hmmmm, money does matter to me..
      Jun 17, 2018
    • Uber DOwW76
      It's sounds like your being very caught up titles and levels.
      Jun 17, 2018
  • Amazon Dfgxxvb
    I got almost same numbers in 2016 from them but at that time they gave me target bonus in 6 figures which my friends told me was not true. Do not go thinking stock will triple etc as that is hard to predict. Never know if there is downturn next year etc. see if you are going to work with right team. My current stock has also more than doubled here after rejecting their offer.
    Jun 17, 2018 4
    • Apple Techjunke
      How about Amazon stock? What is the expectation there? U think trend will continue and we will see 2000$/stock? Or keep steady for a while? Recession on the other hand will impact all if it comes.
      Jun 17, 2018
    • Amazon Dfgxxvb
      If you ask me momentum is shifting towards 1t valuation for many companies slowly. Keeping that aside i feel bullish about future.
      Jun 17, 2018
    • Apple Techjunke
      What is 1t valuation?
      Jun 17, 2018
    • Amazon Dfgxxvb
      1 trillion
      Jun 18, 2018
  • Uber Felicia'
    I'd be skeptical of the 140k refresh number
    Jun 17, 2018 2
    • Deleted
      Jun 18, 2018
    • Uber Ballerina
      Target seems on point compared to last comp cycle.
      Jun 18, 2018
  • Facebook lnstagram
    You should move to FB
    Jun 17, 2018 2
    • Amazon / Design bonerkabob
      F that, shitty dying platform that will quickly become obsolete. Insta, WhatsApp here to stay maybe but the rest, just can't. Ask any millennial or gen z if they use FB and you'll get the answer.
      Jun 19, 2018
    • Deloitte dex
      Chill bruh! They've all our data already.
      Jun 19, 2018
  • Uber FLOh38
    Years of experience? I jumped from goog to uber 6 months ago. Been a nice change culture wise, ofcourse my manager and team is a lot better. I would say don't worry about level a lot (obviously if you can interview again for 6, you should do it) and just double down on compensation. Get another offer from Facebook/Airbnb to get better offer.
    Jun 17, 2018 4
    • Uber FLOh38
      Also I personally think Pinterest is shit future wise. YMMV.
      Jun 17, 2018
    • Pinterest hbd6f2
      Why? Legitimately curious.
      Jun 17, 2018
    • Google ammyy
      OP
      Thanks for advice. I don't think they could grant 6. Do you think 5b is equivalent to Google L5?
      Jun 17, 2018
    • Uber / Eng
      Rqwx5o

      Uber Eng

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      Google
       Rqwx5omore
      5b is Google L6
      Jun 26, 2018
  • 5b is supposed to be equivalent to L6, 5a is supposed to be L5. Congrats on the offer!
    Jun 18, 2018 0
  • Uber Kudo
    Google stock price hasn't moved much in past 12 month
    Jun 17, 2018 0
  • Apple Techjunke
    Hasn’t google given you whole bunch of refreshers throughout 4 years? Why the drop in TC?
    Jun 17, 2018 3
    • Google ammyy
      OP
      1. No refresh for the first year.
      2. Stock price has been doubled.
      Jun 17, 2018
    • Apple Techjunke
      Stock price doubled in your 4 year tenure and? Did they not give you stocks to keep your TC at a certain level starting from year 2?
      Jun 17, 2018
    • Google ammyy
      OP
      It's not possible. Refresh is a fixed number based on your level and perf, instead of your TC. Unless you get counter offer, no one cares about your TC cliff after 4 years.
      Jun 17, 2018
  • Uber lLqb74
    Join uber and have some fun, do some cool stuff. $ matter but so does the work and the people.
    Jun 18, 2018 0
  • Twitter Maxflow+
    You realize Pinterest valuation is based on numbers they haven't reached yet. Why do you think they'd pay so much? Risk is included.
    Jun 17, 2018 0
  • Microsoft etOA87
    What’s your total yoe?
    Jun 17, 2018 0
  • Google / Eng Googler😉
    Did you get new 409a price?
    Aug 8, 2018 0
  • Uber / Eng
    Rqwx5o

    Uber Eng

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     Rqwx5omore
    How many RSU units did you get?
    Jun 26, 2018 0
  • Uber buddhu
    What is the Uber share price quoted to you OP?
    Jun 20, 2018 0
  • New Jooujn
    Engineer?
    Jun 17, 2018 0

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