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Should I take a FB offer?

Microsoft seniorthis
Jan 9

Not posting details because I think it’s easy to lose anonymity.

It’s 40% more than I make now and better than all competing offers I have.

But are the scandals too much? Is it a good company? Everyday there’s a new story about how bad FB culture is...

Current TC: $220k

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  • Facebook / EngUWBE87
    Facebook definitely does not have a bad culture or bad WLB. Articles tend to be from disgruntled former employees or Blind and does not represent reality.
    Jan 91
    • Microsoft seniorthis
      OP
      Ok thanks for sharing. I appreciate it.
      Jan 9
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    • Microsoft seniorthis
      OP
      Do you think so? I’m on the fence here. Is it that bad that you wouldn’t move over?
      Jan 9
    • Amazon Nkbf63
      Very shitty attitude towards your future coworker
      Jan 9
    • New / R&D
      JohnMcPop'

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      JohnMcPop'more
      Sandberg can't tolerate more competition and people potentially replacing them
      Jan 9
    • Microsoft alex5
      @sandberg, so if he declines the offer now, he can still join after two years without interviewing ?
      Jan 9
  • Facebook dumbell
    Good time to join considering stock drop
    Jan 90
  • Microsoft pieceofm
    Friends working at FB MPK and constantly work until midnight. Leaving work around 4pm, 1+ hr commute via shuttle, picking up kids, putting them to sleep then work from 9-12.
    Jan 97
    • Facebook alt_qq
      That's not typically what you think when someone says "working until midnight" though and is a bit misleading... That maps more to like working until 7pm or 50 hours a week-ish, which isn't really too bad

      In other industries like banking and consulting you actually work until midnight
      Jan 9
    • New / Eng
      NerfIndian

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      Is 50 hours a week normal in US?
      Jan 9
    • Facebook alt_qq
      50 is on the higher side for tech in the US, but still fairly common. 40-50 is pretty typical in most industries, can get away with 30-35 in some lax jobs/roles

      There are industries with 60-70+ on average though (consulting, banking/PE/VC, some doctors, lawyers, etc)
      Jan 9
    • New / Eng
      NerfIndian

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      NerfIndianmore
      No, I was being specific to tech. It varies wildly in India, from 30-35 at places like SAP to 60+ at some roles in AMZN.
      Jan 9
    • Microsoft / EngdKWp30
      IBanking is not 60-70. It’s more like 80-100/wk.
      Jan 9
    • Facebook alt_qq
      Ibanking is in the + range haha (was trying to capture as many industries as possible)
      Jan 9
    • Facebook alt_qq
      And yeah with tech in the US that sounds pretty similar to India, with most clumped around 40 +/- 5
      Jan 9
  • Facebook / Engleija
    I really like the product (use Messenger and Instagram everyday) and excited to be joining soon but the scandals are making me scared lol
    Jan 92
    • Facebook / EngOmg
      The scandals give you more stocks
      Jan 9
    • Facebook / Engleija
      Yeah! I mean I wouldn't go anywhere even if the compensation was not as good (except maybe Spotify / SoundCloud). Being passionate about the product is pretty important
      Jan 9
  • New / Engladka
    Facebook is run like a startup at a massive scale. This is true of very few public companies. Amazon is another example -- think of all the negative press they had in 2015. If you had joined Amazon in spite of the negative press at that time, you'd have made a ton of money by now. Facebook is ambitious and is going to grow like crazy. If that excites you, you should definitely join.
    Jan 92
  • Facebook / EngLighthouse
    Go for it. Blind is an extremely skewed population.
    Jan 90
  • Microsoft / EngFreshPrinc
    What level at Facebook?
    Jan 95
    • Microsoft seniorthis
      OP
      E6
      Jan 9
    • Microsoft / EngFreshPrinc
      Not bad. Based on the numbers you see on Blind that seems low for an E6. But 40% higher is still good. Although at 220 you’re underpaid as a 65.

      I wouldn’t worry about the press reports. If you’re unhappy with what you’re doing today, sure, take it. You can always come back as a 66, and get a new on hire grant, negotiate a higher base, etc
      Jan 9
    • Facebook / Eng
      onlysmellz

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      onlysmellzmore
      Wait, you are going to have ~300 TC as E6? Something smells here. This would be a bit low even for E5.
      Jan 9
    • Microsoft seniorthis
      OP
      What should I negotiate for E6? Is $600TC doable?
      Jan 9
    • Facebook / Eng
      onlysmellz

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      ~500 TC is ok for E6, 600 is pretty good. Definitely doable.
      Jan 10
  • Evernote maxten
    My recommendations

    I would try to get more of an idea of the TEAM culture. Teams can be very different within large organizations so don't just listen to the articles which are very broad. It's worth noting it's an issue possibly but doesn't mean it's something that is encouraged within the company or something.
    Jan 92
    • Facebook / EngBookEng
      Facebook let’s u choose team after joining. You will have an opportunity to work with multiple teams on a task or two before joining
      Jan 9
    • Evernote maxten
      Ah forgot about that; good call. In either case I think its wrong to assume those articles are what the entire company adheres to.
      Jan 9
  • Facebook / EngPhabricatr
    40% increase is too good to pass on
    Jan 90
  • New / EngScarn🎙
    Take the more money man...story can change any time
    Jan 90
  • Microsoft Draven
    Level?
    Jan 92
  • Facebook / Engunknownuf
    FYI my org currently has a 55% reject rate on offers.
    Jan 101
    • Facebook UNhx82
      Wow, that is unheard of.
      Jan 10
  • Facebook UNhx82
    I agree with what have been said here regarding compensation, but it is not worth it for me because it is so chaotic that it is affecting my health.
    Jan 91
    • New / Engladka
      Fair enough. Not everyone prefers a startup kinda culture. This is a risk/reward play. Everyone has their own threshold. Some people like to even get out of the rat race in the Bay area. There is no right or wrong here. What's never possible is to get high reward for average effort -- unless you are from a privileged background.
      Jan 9
  • Microsoft SheHulk
    Is it really that much higher with SSA?
    Jan 91
    • Microsoft seniorthis
      OP
      I only got $40k/4 years for my SSA, that didn’t improve my TC that much.
      Jan 9
  • Microsoft ztuw23
    I have issues with the company ethically. If you do too, consider leveraging their offer for other offers.
    Jan 90
  • Facebook UNhx82
    People from Amazon told me Facebook is much crazier in terms of workload and expecrations.
    Jan 90

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