I have an offer from Uber for Software Engineer II, 147k base + 13k target cash bonus + 52k target refresher RSU + 240k RSU over the usual 4 year vesting schedule schedule.
Do those numbers seem ok?
I’m expecting an offer from Pinterest as well in the coming days. Better or worse place to work than Uber?
- Pinterest owLj23Pinterest has a great culture and will be a better and bigger business than most people think. It’s a company I am proud to have worked at.
- Lmao bro calm down you work at a photo sharing social network, you are literally the Silicon Valley meme of overpaid engineers solving problems nobody cares about and have minimal impact on the world.
Uber has had a significant effect on my life, I can’t say the same thing about a website that allows me to aggregate and share my photosJun 75
- You do realize we have hundreds of millions of active users, right? I literally have random strangers thank me for building Pinterest because it improves their lives. Just because you don’t use/understand a service doesn’t make it worthless. I don’t use Snap or Uber or Airbnb, but that doesn’t make them worthless. Also, I guarantee the food you eat, the designs of the building you enter, and much more of your daily life is silently affected by Pinterest.Jun 710
- Lol keep drinking the kool aid buddy. I will be shocked if Pinterest ever reaches a liquidation event outside of an acquisition once investors realise it’ll never make money.
I think most people would agree that creating a visual pin board of cool stuff you find around the Internet is not an essential or valuable service. Uber for most people is essential (it provides an income) or valuable (it allows someone to live without a car). I can’t say the same thing about an Internet pin board web app.
- “Pinterest pushes back IPO to 2019 after revenue miss: report”
“The social network is expected to have losses of about $100 million on revenue of about $490 million”
Definitely sounds like a winner lmao, how you manage to even spend $590 million I can’t even fathom
- Twitter in 2012, year of IPO, 6 years old. 200m mau. $242m revenue. $511m in net losses. Now worth $30b.
Pinterest in 2017. 7 years old. 200m+ mau. $480m revenue. $100m in losses.
So Pinterest will likely be cash flow positive when it IPOs next year, making 3-4x what Twitter was when it IPOd, and you’re confused about what exactly?Jun 72
- Like I said - keep drinking the kool aid. The fact that you are comparing it to Twitter is laughable.
I’m looking forward to the day you IPO so I can make some easy money from shorting your stock like I did with shorting Snapchat (another hilariously broken business model that’ll never reach sustainability)
- Pinterest Gd4YzPeople have a hard time with our creative because it is purely visual. But once we get them over the hump, they say we are the best performing ads outside of Google search and Facebook. I'll gladly take that compliment at our current point. And so we continue to grow with an entirely auction based system. (versus snap which was high cpm reservation, recently moving to auction hence guidance that revenue is tanking)Jun 130
- Pinterest is over and no clear path to ipo. As far as the offer is concerned.. it’s low. Ask for 150/ 350k
- I have no intentions of lying to a recruiter. That sounds like a recipe for disaster. I’m happy with the numbers. I just want to know if they’re in line with market value. I’m a mobile engineer with 1-2 years professional experience. Can anyone else comment on the offer specifically?Jun 62
- Uber VdYu22Common sense is not "law of numbers". In fact it does nothing to explain the thinking.
In fact, it sounds more like circular logic. The point you're trying to make is that it's an advertisement model and since those have been successful before, it must be worth more.
Should be worth more > but it has a lower valuation > it should be worth more > repeat until you've convinced yourself that Pinterest is a better investment than Uber.
OP, if you fall for this type of idiocy, I've got a tiger-repelling rock to sell you.
- Uber is not the easiest company to work for but it's a no-brainer in terms of who will provide a challenging and learning experience. Equity upside is Uber as well - can't see Pinterest stock exploding ever even if they IPO
- @MgQT10 not every company that loses money will pay off in the long run. Good luck though, I'm excited to see if Uber will get to 3.7 billion losses this year.
Dozens of countries like China? What happened again? Oh Uber lost to competition and had to sell cause they were doing so bad. Is that part of the long game too?
- I find it funny how our minority stakes in other companies are considered losses. In that respect we’re ahead of Google, Facebook and Amazon in getting a minority stake in unicorns in China and Russia. There was zero chance we would have one in either. The Kremlin and the CCP would have made sure of it.
- Remind me again how much money Amazon, FB, and Google are losing per quarter again? And which of those companies have to fundraise in the next 2-3 years or they'll be bankrupt? Pick on other companies for having some sense of financial responsibility lol. Mature.
Maybe Uber will succeed. But for now it just gets on it's knees every 2 years for more money.
- Uber KnkG84moreI can't talk about Pinterest, but Uber has a lot to offer. Urban mobility is huge as everyone moves into cities. Here are some reasons
1. We have a solid, well rounded strategy to make headway here - making partnerships at the right places, smart acquisitions, self driving cars, VTOL vehicles etc. There is a lot for you to learn and do. Uber is very open to internal transfers.
2. You are building a critical service: if Yahoo news goes down for a while, it won't hurt the world. If Uber does and you are late for your interview, it actually affects your life.
3. The business stays ahead of engineering: the only place I have been where there's more real problems to solve than we can solve (I am not talking incremental enhancements, I am talking major changes to enabling the world move faster in a cheaper way).
4. I am proud to be building a service everyone knows and uses!
There's super high potential upside on equity for all these reasons and more. Happy to chat more, DM me.
- 147k base is really good for eng2. Seniors used to get 150k. Rsu grant is also really good. I honestly think it’s a strong offer
- Male engineers in Silicon Valley don’t value/understand Pinterest. But the company is kick-ass to work at, growing strong both in users and revenue, and still small enough to work on a wide variety of software. 3+ years going strong and still lovin’ it.
- Been here for 8 months , I also worried about being a bad place but so far it’s been great.
I’m also mobile dev SWE2 and the team and the resources are great, the development flow and challenges are pretty good and unless you’re working on a crazy important team your work-life balance will be great
If your concerns are about culture request for a team lunch , and tell them you want to meet the people you’ll work for
Take it from people working for Uber , a lot of this comments are just talking shit cause people love to shit to Uber. But the future IPO is looking bright , we got plenty of challenges a great new boss and way too much halal chicken
- Hello there! I’m about to have an on-site and my choice would be a lot easier than OP’s. If I get an offer it’d be Symantec vs Uber, not really fighting on equal grounds there haha. Any tips you can pass onto a novice to ace this thing? I’m already 130 problems deep into LeetCode.
- Pinterest AbdhkxI would not recommend Pinterest. A lot of senior engineers and managers leaving in the last few weeks. Tons of political and super slow execution speed.
- Thank you. First real insight into Pinterest on this thread. Anyone other pinners have some useful info besides bashing / praising Uber / Pinterest?
I’m already leaning heavily towards Uber, if only because the Pinterest product doesn’t excite me much and I doubt they’ll over similar compensation.
- It's not a team problem - it's a company wide problem. Just take a look at how little the product has changed in the last few years compared to, say, Instagram or even Twitter or Snap.
Some teams move fast making incremental improvements to ranking or distribution but overall velocity is low.
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