Should OPT be stopped to prevent visa abuse?

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Jul 3 33 Comments

We see many Telugu and Asians here who enroll in fraud Universities and come here on F1. They work in malls, gas stations...

Get OPT and then to H1b.

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  • Salesforce kyen
    And what's stopping you from dealing with fraud universities in the first place? Don't look at the effect. Look at the cause.
    Jul 3 2
    • Akamai Technologies / Eng
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      My first thought as well. Stop fraud universities. Not opt.
      Jul 3
    • Symantec
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      Reform what enables it.
      Jul 3
  • Nvidia bdei51
    We should also ban using cars because they cause accidents.
    Jul 3 1
    • Symantec
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      Let's do it
      Jul 3
  • Accenture llja
    a lot of that here in nyc, they work in restos/bars and get stuck in that rat race then having difficulty finding real jobs once their done w/ their "masters"

    i appreciate their hustle. i think some of them given the opportunity will continue to hustle their way to success

    i said "some" because others would just use their beauty and find some dude/gal to marry and coast through life
    Jul 3 4
    • Uber / Eng fomo
      Help me understand how they use OPT to work in restaurants and bars? Do you know that OPT has restrictions on the type of jobs they can take?

      And the last part is just sexist. Why can’t a dude use his beauty to find some gal to marry and coast through life? Lmao
      Jul 3
    • Accenture llja
      edited my post, of course it applies to dudes too.

      well here in nyc, restos/bars are not very strict on immigration papers. and there are thousands of restos here. and in turn those peeps get abused by less pay and more hours, they don't have a choice because they need $$ to sustain rent and expenses.

      peeps on F1 would take their time, some would skip every other term. so they could work and earn money for the full 3-4months. and before they would graduate on the existing course they would "shift course" and transfer to another school and this keeps their i20 valid for so long. some are here for 9years and still a student. just stuck in the rat race until they get the opportunity to get out
      Jul 3
    • Uber / Eng fomo
      Then it’s completely irrelevant to OPT isn’t it? They work at restaurants illegally and it has nothing to do with them having OPT or not. If there’s no OPT program they can still hang in there with different I-20s and hope that they ultimately get a job and H1b.

      I thought we are talking about OPT. You seem to have shifted the topic to F1 or H1b
      Jul 3
    • Accenture llja
      OP said F1 and how they abuse it

      where F1 transitions to OPT to H1B so it is somehow related
      Jul 3
  • HERE progli
    Small potatoes
    Jul 3 4
    • Berkeley Lab LPVJ54
      Big ones at the southern border.
      Jul 3
    • HERE progli
      ^ Irrelevant
      Jul 3
    • Berkeley Lab LPVJ54
      What is?
      Jul 3
    • HERE progli
      Asylum seekers vs. Opt abusers
      Jul 3
  • Nvidia CutTheBS
    Disallow consultancies to hire OPT candidates, 99% of Visa abuse will stop.
    If companies want they can provide direct contract
    Jul 3 3
    • Microsoft oMAG58
      This.
      Jul 3
    • Groupon / Eng sleepy
      This is being tried but the problem is that these guys fake an in-house product and continue doing the same. They are leaner and meaner these days too.
      Jul 7
    • Nvidia CutTheBS
      Well at least they're leaner. I'll take that over not doing anything.
      Jul 8
  • IBM xlajduf
    Visa abuse? Do u know how much money we make from H1b applicants?
    Jul 3 3
    • Amazon TRuc81
      And how much is lost from wage suppression ?
      Jul 3
    • Groupon / Eng sleepy
      Good point, any reference to wage suppression other than the works of Ron Hira?
      Jul 7
    • Trimble dwightBeet
      @Truc81 I'm interested to know. How much?
      Jul 17
  • Affirm demol
    Don’t you need to be “skilled” and have a high-paying job to get H1B?
    Jul 3 5
    • Symantec
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      Evidently not. You need right contacts to land a job
      Jul 3
    • Groupon / Eng sleepy
      This is not H1B, opt doesn’t apparently have all these checks.
      Jul 7
    • Affirm aoa
      Right but his concern seems to be that OPT then get H1Bs, which then... steal jobs or something? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      Jul 7
    • Symantec
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      Not just steal jobs.. they join questionable universities and use "referrals" to get jobs
      Jul 7
    • Trimble dwightBeet
      @OP Can you give your background? I'm interested to see why you are so sour about this matter.

      OPT and H1B abusers should definitely be weeded out. But the programs should continue for it's core purpose.
      Jul 17
  • eBay jdjdj
    Yes.
    Visa abuse and it will stop all the fake resumes with experience of 6 to 10 years even though they have zero experience in the industry.
    Jul 3 0
  • New / Product crazyNerd
    Dumbness^ignorance
    Jul 3 0
  • HERE progli
    And no opt shouldn't be stopped
    Jul 3 0
  • Yahoo iath71
    Yes.
    Jul 3 0