Should People be shamed and banned for supporting Hong Kong's fight for democracy?

Siemens Winchest
Oct 8 110 Comments

In case you live under a rock and don't know. Hong Kong citizens have been taking to the streets in the millions for a few months now protesting and fighting to keep themselves separated from mainland China. Whenever public figures have shown support for Hong Kong though companies bend the knee to communist China and force the person to retract and apologise for there support of democracy. Should companies be able to force apologise and why is this okay? (Example: NBA team owner for the Rockets tweeted he supported Hong Kong. The NBA forced him to delete the post and him to apologise to china.)

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  • Google / Eng Untitled◻️
    You are brainwashed by cnn, bbc, wsj an nyt
    Oct 8 38
    • Goldman Sachs / Eng pssS53
      @Untitled, do you realise that whenever the UK tried to reform the system to be more democratic, the Chinese govt across the border threw insults and threatened to take over HK by force? Of course it's not okay to use violence, but when you have hundreds of thousands of people marching literally every weekend and the government doesn't give a shit, is it not obvious that they will get quite upset?
      Oct 8
    • Argo AI mjforever1
      And to that untitled shit I am from mainland China and I am 100% you are too. I am ashamed of you. If you are so supportive of the Chinese govt why not try organize a parade in any of the Chinese cities to show your loyalty? Or wait, you can’t. You cannot even be allowed to express your gratitude to your slave master and yet here you are, denigrating hk people’s fight for their rights and ultimately your rights.
      Oct 8
    • Google / Eng Untitled◻️
      Do you remember what happened in the City of Ferguson in 2014? Can you freely express your opinion on “BLM” vs “All lives matter”?
      Oct 8
    • Netflix nutcrack
      Google - nothing happens to antifa in the US for destroying streets during their protests
      Oct 8
    • Facebook ruCH23
      Google untitled is chinese dog biting all over the place with wrong logic. Not everyone just cares about being rich and having better life. Comparing censorship between china and US is a joke. Yes both have censorship but the magnitude is so different. You literally cant search 64 on Baidu. Lol
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  • Google / Eng Untitled◻️
    You never saw what are happening in hk. Rioters attack people who speak Mandarin because they think Mandarin speakers are all from mainland China. But the funny thing is they attacked two reporters from taiwan since they don’t know Mandarin is also spoken in taiwan. They use lasers, stones, burning bottles and etc to attack hk police. If this happens in the US, they will be shot by police multiple times. Think about the protests happened in Wall Street several years ago. How did the US police treat the protesters? Open your eyes and look for the truth. They are VIOLENT RIOTERS. It’s no longer a peaceful protest.
    Oct 8 12
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      Oct 8
    • Veritas mojojojox
      You keep talking about US and protest not being peaceful anymore and hence should definitely be ridiculed.
      Here is the second amendment of US Constitution.
      "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
      Oct 8
    • Google / Eng Untitled◻️
      Do you remember what happened in the City of Ferguson in 2014? Can you freely express your opinion on “BLM” vs “All lives matter”?
      Oct 8
    • Cisco nonpareil2
      No one in Ferguson had their organs harvested or were put in mandatory re-education camps.
      Oct 8
    • New / Eng CVAI
      Untitled - you're so woke. Must be lucky to be in the mainland - get some of that sweet, sweet Chinese dream. I can picture you in your Shanghai Sharks jersey now - chillaxing with some FM 5quai Baijiu & drinking w/ the confidence that can only come when you know your new liver is but 10 days away.
      Oct 8
  • Microsoft
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    We must support HK at any cost. The CCP is the Nazi party of the 21st century. They even have their own concentration camps. How is this even up for debate?
    Oct 8 4
    • Cisco nonpareil2
      This.
      Oct 8
    • State Street Corporation aabcbaa
      Apparently you don't know enough about China.. CCP has its dark side for sure. But every gov or political party has their own dark side that we don't know about. Every gov or political party would uglify other parties. So don't completely believe what you see on your local news. What you think about CCP is not that horrible in general.. at least not Nazi party.
      Oct 10
    • Microsoft
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      Um they are operating straight from the nazis playbook. I mean this in the most literal sense possible.

      They have concentration camps of millions of innocent people in East Turkistan, based almost entirely on their race.

      They interfere with religion, and put communist propaganda in churches.

      They heavily utilize censorship and disappear people who disagree with them.

      Then they are doing things that Hitler only dreamed of, but couldn’t due to limitations on tech at the time. (Eg modifying human DNA)
      Oct 10
    • Cisco nonpareil2
      “Every government yadda yadda” - the only Chinese defense tactic is whataboutism and it only works because people aren’t aware of how bad the Chinese government is.
      Oct 12
  • Siemens Winchest
    OP
    Another example is a pro video gamer was banned from competition for stating on air that he supported Hong Kong.
    Oct 8 2
    • Google get_better
      Who?
      Oct 8
    • Microsoft oackjfk
      And it was blizzard of all companies citing hateful speech
      Oct 8
  • SAP jgvnts
    A lot of evidence has shown that the “violence” or “crime” was indeed done by the government and police.. The purpose of that is to make everyone else in Hong Kong hate the protesters and not support them anymore.. A lot of people actually believed it and started to say they no longer support the protest. Here is a picture that shows the fire that the police claimed was set by protesters.. it was actually set after the police arrived.
    Oct 8 13
    • Amazon / Mgmt Db8db4
      Yet you are too happy to say protesters did it.
      Oct 8
    • Uber
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      I didn’t say that. The thread started by saying the police “indeed did” do it. I said a single protestor could have snuck back in, so there’s not enough proof. Unless you actually saw who did it, don’t believe everything in the media.
      Oct 8
    • Amazon / Mgmt Db8db4
      In another response you were a bit more direct to point out that protesters attacked a banker "for no reason". I do not condone any violence, but would want to see more fair assessment, because when it came to police, your first reaction was, "what if it is a protester" and "this requires full investigation to prove it is police doing". Looks like different degrees of evidence depending on the side.
      Oct 8
    • Uber
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      There are a few longer videos of the other guy who got attacked. He’s surrounded by cameras and witnesses who would’ve mentioned if he did something bad to start the confrontation. It is possible no one came forward yet. Only thing I see him doing to possibly provoke the crowd is saying “we are all chinese”, but that may have been his way of trying to de escalate. The MTR / police case is lots of circumstantial evidence - nothing on camera or witnesses. I am not sure how the media ended up portraying it, but there’s not enough proof here to say who did it.
      Oct 8
    • Amazon / Mgmt Db8db4
      Makes sense.
      Oct 8
  • New WMPq34
    Shamed no. They definitely shouldn’t be banned. Submitting to a totalitarian regime should never be endorsed and you should never be ashamed to stand up to them, even if it is only a slight gesture. To hell with the communists.
    Oct 8 0
  • NetApp / Eng vol0
    No, should be shamed for supporting the mainland
    Oct 8 1
  • Google uswQ74
    Well, as someone who has been following the entire thing closely, who read news from multiple sources, talked to people there in hk and mainlander traveled to hk recently. I can’t really call they are “protesting” to have “democracy”. First of all, they already have democracy. At this point, no one knows the truth, nobody has a whole picture what exactly happened, and how this thing begins with protesting and ends up with rioting. Not sure if op has really been to hk, it’s a very stressful place to live. Huge income gap, crazy population density, a lot of young ppl are anxious and struggling to live ( except these,food is great, people are good) . In my opinion, it’s more about expressing extreme frustrations when going downhill post prosperity. Who wouldn’t want a villainous gov to blame on? To avoid unnecessary attacking and persuasion: I dont have a side, but I do hope there isn’t more blood.
    Oct 10 4
    • E*Trade / Finance cbEV72
      You seem to be on CCP side
      Oct 10
    • Google uswQ74
      lol already said I’m not picking sides. Don’t need you to speak for me.
      Oct 10
    • E*Trade / Finance cbEV72
      You picked CCP side effectively though you claim neutrality
      Oct 10
    • Cisco nonpareil2
      They already have “democracy” you say. Tell me, how has that been applied over the last six months?
      Oct 12
  • Goldman Sachs fake engineer
    If you believe that any destabilization in Chinese territory is good, I won't argue with you, though I think it's short-sighted (think "moderate rebels" in the Middle East). There are some fundamental differences that can't be settled (self-determination).

    However if you believe in liberal values like anti-racism, rule of law, and freedom of speech, the assault on the JPM employee, the "yellow thug" slur yelled at the Chinese American reporter and threats made at the Taiwanese reporter, the tied up and beaten guy at the airport, etc. should be concerning at the very least... If open elections were conceded right now, do you think the violent people would accept the results if it weren't favorable to them? I won't say no for sure, but I have doubts.

    Idle speculation: the government is going to do nothing for a bit longer until western media starts turning and opposition legislators lose popularity, then the police will switch from dispelling to mass arrests. Plot twist: universal suffrage is granted after public opinion is solidly on their side.
    Oct 8 0
  • Uber
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    Well this is a shitty situation for China and their fault for not stepping in earlier to withdraw the bill and meet some of the demands. I feel like there’s no end to protests now. Did you see the mainlander banker get attacked for no reason? (https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3031708/attack-jpmorgan-banker-hong-kong-sparks-outrage-mainland-china)

    I am pro taiwan/HK independence but feel the situation has escalated to a point where China needs to step in. Either meet all demands or solve the civil unrest by force and make the city safe again. By not doing anything and trying to save face with their pro CCP supporters at protests, all they are doing is making themselves look worse and distancing themselves from other countries.

    PS I hope China’s economy tanks and becomes as cheap as the 1990s again so I can visit and backpack there
    Oct 8 3
    • New / Eng CVAI
      So - let me get this straight: You are advocating the PLA kill Hong Kongers?
      Oct 8
    • Uber
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      I am hoping they meet most of the demands and get rid of the current HK administration. However there’s becoming more hate crimes recently, so if nothing is done and things get worse to the point of anarchy, then something drastic should happen because the police can’t do their job.

      Here is an article from the perspective of a mainlander living in HK: https://t.co/60WfTHdWep
      Oct 8
    • New / Eng CVAI
      So - you are advocating the PLA kill Hong Kongers with reference to an opinion entry from an Alibaba-owned newspaper?
      Oct 9
  • SAP jgvnts
    Another picture shows a “protester” setting fire but he has a gun. People in Hong Kong don’t have guns except the police. They simply don’t have access to buy guns since it’s banned.
    Oct 8 1
  • Cisco nonpareil2
    Roll in the China shills to pretend this is fake news.
    Oct 8 0
  • Goldman Sachs rentisgood
    It is only so much they can do against the authoritarian machine that they will never win. Like 1984 they will learn to love their master the easy or hard way.
    Oct 8 0
  • Amazon SmartMoFo
    NBA and Blizzard are following the money, just like all you chase high TC at all costs. Stop with the double standard moral BS and grow up.
    Oct 8 1
    • Cisco nonpareil2
      Some of us aren’t fuck-you-I-got-mine assholes. No double standard here.
      Oct 8
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    Oct 8 1
    • E*Trade / Finance cbEV72
      I don’t think it’s helpful to conflate HK and Taiwan. The former is Chinese, the latter is sovereign. I’m all for military and economic support of Taiwan, our great friend in Asia
      Oct 8
  • Facebook i9js5
    They should be free to express their opinion and not censored!
    Oct 8 0
  • eBay / Other
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    *NBA General Manager. The owner immediately quote-tweeted him and said 'we're not political'.
    Oct 8 1
    • Siemens Winchest
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      Thank you for the correction
      Oct 8
  • LinkedIn cd-
    Blitzchung wasn’t banned for supporting HK. He was banned for breach of contract. Apparently he clicked accept without actually reading it.

    It’s the same as how KPOP idols get fired for dating. 🤷‍♂️
    Oct 8 2
    • Goldman Sachs rentisgood
      Blizzard wants to sell to China, make money from China. It can do what it pleases even if it means censor speech for ccp.

      pointing out the obvious.
      Oct 8
    • LinkedIn cd-
      Who doesn’t want to sell to China? The trade war is all about selling to China.

      A boycott from China is a lot more damaging to their bottom line than some outrage in US.

      Funny how the capitalist beacon of the world kowtow to the “commies” by way of...capitalism?
      Oct 8
  • E*Trade / Finance cbEV72
    Me not caring for HK is not the same as me not being allowed to support them. As a country we should stay out of it but if our compatriots want to support HK then we shouldn’t let CCP to bully them
    Oct 8 1
    • Microsoft
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      ^ccp troll spotted
      Oct 8
  • Snapchat / Eng
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    Is there a chance HK will become an independent country? Would the population want this?
    Oct 8 1
    • Goldman Sachs fake engineer
      Among high school and college youths, support for independence polls at 40%, 10-20% in the general population.
      Oct 8

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