Should we form powerful employees unions in tech

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Jun 9 28 Comments

What you people think about forming strong powerful Employees unions against tech giants. So they can be careful while lay offs and pass more benefits to employees.

Is it doable ?

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  • Credit Karma EllisDee25
    It’s possible and even if wages in tech remained high it would still be beneficial for most of the things people on Blind complain about: lack of hiring/advancement/compensation transparency, unaccountable/bad managers, no real work-life balance etc.

    Probably the biggest barrier in tech is professional elitism and the idea that high wages are like a reward, rather than the result of certain conditions (conditions which change rapidly). These attitudes might change in a recession, but then it would be mostly too late.
    Jun 9 10
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      Re: Detroit, there is an important secondary question of union orientation and strategy (as well as historical background) that I think might be too nuanced for this discussion.

      So I’ll just say: yes, the historical record shows that unions can be effective or ineffective at defending or delivering the needs of employees. In my view this largely depends on if the initiative is based more in the rank and file members or the union bureaucrats. Business-unionism has been a disaster for workers and the unions themselves. But from an employee-viewpoint imo, being on a leaky boat in a storm is still favorable to doggy-paddling in the open ocean during a storm. There’s the possibility of mutiny, repairing the craft, and navigating a better corse.

      The recent teacher strike-wave would be a small example of that.
      Jun 9
    • Oath Atinlay2
      Do that and we will ALL get paid less with fewer benefits
      Jun 9
    • Microsoft pisjpaa89
      So unions can be effective and ineffective. Then why do we need to go with the MOAR approach (introducing them)?! If ain't broken, don't fix it. Same argument against Marxists governments usurping every aspect of life.
      Jun 11
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      Why organize if there is no 100% guarantee of success? Because doing nothing is 100% ineffective at increasing employee influence over job conditions.

      Like I said, maybe too nuanced for this discussion. Lol.
      Jun 11
    • Oath Atinlay2
      @Ellis doesn’t even know what problem he is trying to solve.
      Jun 11
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    dilfmore
    Maybe if our current working conditions and compensation wasn't some of the best out of any occupation.
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    Not possible without political support. But agree that there is a need of union or need a law to support employees basic rights.
    Jun 9 5
    • Microsoft
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      What basic rights of yours aren't being met by your current employer?
      Jun 9
    • Oath Atinlay2
      Explain to me exactly how tech workers are mistreated? Cafe ran out of sushi too early during lunch?
      Jun 9
    • Microsoft
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      Lol. We don't get free food here! Time to unionize!!
      Jun 9
    • Oath Atinlay2
      Let’s organize a walkout!
      Jun 9
    • SAP OsDS68
      Some SAP offices get free lunch. Would be nice if all got them, but I understand life isnt fair.
      Jun 9
  • Microsoft aUFx83
    Why?! I would certainly vote against this. We are already some of the most entitled whiny little b*tches in the workforce (opinion). Can you image people’s attitudes if there was an entire union of those same entitled whiny b*tches? Employers would start sending all of these positions overseas.
    Jun 9 2
    • SAP OsDS68
      Or hiring underpaid contractors (*cougb*cough* Microsoft) to their most of their work, on top of offshoring. It really doesnt matter wh as t we do, because at the end of the day, the employers will do what's best for their bottom line. Whether that's mass layoffs or more offshoring. Unions aren't a bad idea and we have to remember where the 5 day work week originated. Where most of the current workers rights came from. I could tell you it wasn't employer driven. People literally died for the rights we have today.
      Jun 9
    • Microsoft aUFx83
      I’m certainly not arguing the merits of Unions or belittling the benefits that they brought to early laborers and us as their economic descendants. I think Unions have their place still today, but it is not (currently) in our industry. We are treated really well and we have supply and demand on our side. Let’s not Fck up a good thing.
      Jun 9
  • Google DocStrange
    No thanks! Unlike most tech workers I’ve worked in a union shop before. It was awful.
    Jun 9 0
  • Intel LvOT55
    Then they will send every single job over seas
    Jun 9 1
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      Bastards! If only there was some way employees could form an independent organized block of some sort in order to have more influence!
      Jun 9
  • New nope |
    Unions suck
    Jun 9 0
  • Fucks no
    Jun 9 0
  • Google wHtB0a
    The H1b/foreign labor issue alone makes it a toxic issue to bring up.
    Jun 9 0
  • Oath Atinlay2
    Not a chance.
    Jun 9 0