On only $400M in revenue.
Who's planning on catching this falling knife when they go public?
On only $400M in revenue.
- Getting teams as part of a combo deal doesn't mean employees are using it. MS teams adoption numbers show the number of companies you have access to it, not necessarily using it. Everyone still uses slack and will continue to do so, there is really no other alternative right now.
- Uber @₺?>!Microsoft has never really built their own, innovative products. They've fast followed, or acquired the leader. And then they've often thrown in some anticompetitive practices to lock it all in.
And it's worked.
If it's a store-based platform, bet against Microsoft. If it's anything else, stop looking at traditional product innovation and execution as being particularly relevant.
- Slack is way better than Microsoft teams. They have fair pricing. Easy to use. Will succeed in long run. Microsoft is selling teams as an office 365 bundle otherwise no one will buy it.
- @xtFP08 No it doesn't. It's light years ahead of Skype for Business. I also haven't noticed any resource problems.
I'm not saying I'm a fan of it. I never used Slack much so can't compare. Slack is a more mature product so it's probably better. Teams has been improving rapidly though. A year ago. Everyone at Microsoft still used Skype because Teams was a piece of crap. Now I can't imagine going back.
- @makeitbig I've only used Slack's free tier, but what does it have that Teams doesn't? The only thing that I don't like about Teams is that the persistent chat lazy loads as you scroll farther back. It can make it a pain to find stuff. However, the search feature balances it out.
Other than that, in Teams I can call into meetings, screen share, record meetings, preview and edit Office files, make phone calls, share gifs, make bookmarks, and more.
Also, the video and call quality is light years better than Skype for Business (i.e. Lync).
I have nothing to do with developing Teams. I just genuinely don't understand why Slack is such a better product.Apr 28 5
- TrueCar / Design nQkK62I actually think discord is the best chat service I've ever used. It's not suited for business because well it was made for gamers. But if they made a business version, I think they could easily beat slack. Plus their shit is free atm.
Curious what you guys mean by scaling limits. Discord can host thousands of users. Their instant calling is amazing, and if you do screenshare in a dm it's also really good quality
- And only “82%” growth rate. Sounds like OP works in Microsoft teams group :)
- Slack won’t survive more than 5 years. Microsoft Teams got o365 support and compliance to support fintech, DoD, banks, gov. And ecosystem to help. Slack has a considerable disadvantage.
- At the end who can make money that matters the most, yes, Slack can be used in small companies and small teams. But will a bank, any gov. Agency, fintech company or 500 fortune company will deploy(company wide) Slack, I doubt. And these are the customer those pay a tremendous amount of money. Competing with MS in enterprises space is not an easy task. MS had lots of assets and push behind the MS Teams. It will be interesting to see how slack will compete. They already expressed their in security by publishing full page ad when Teams launched.
- Microsoft MMKy42Teams is part of the Microsoft platform. Slack is a chat service...not sure why anyone would invest in them.
- 1)I actually used slack during my MBA before I joined Microsoft. I said so on my previous comment.
2) out of touch is you that think dev is the role that dictates enterprise productivity software. I bet you never worked in non tech. You remind of Snap chat fans before Facebook crushed their gorwth.
3) not saying Slack will cease to exist but it will and is already slowing down it's growth.
- RetailMeNot qtlg72If you notice most of the support for Teams is from Microsoft employees. Reality check: Slack is a hell of a lot of a better product that’s more cross-platform and integration friendly. Video conferencing within it is damn good, and most tech-centric companies that don’t rely on the Microsoft ecosystem prefer it over anything else. Damn great product that has much better pricing practices than anything else out there.
- Better pricing? Why are you lying? Office 365 price per user, which includes Teams, depending on your plan, is comparable or less than the price per user for Slack. Zero reason for any large enterprise to use Slack when they have Teams for free. Not advocating for teams, but stop lying. Slack doesn't make sense when you have Teams for free.Apr 27 7
- Slack has better video conferencing, are you sure. Slack can’t have anything built natively other than chat; it relies on the third party only. There are many free users but not much paid. I won’t be surprised. Teams will have 80-90M users in 1 year or so. Slack can’t catch up to that. Slack comparing to Teams is like a knife compared to Nuclear weapon. These arguments were there on Teams launches; all proved wrong. Teams are silently spreading, already have 25M MAU.
- Airbnb 0x00000000@makeitbig “Msft folks should support thejr product”
No. They should think critically about their product and take critical feedback seriously rather than putting their fingers in their ears and shouting when the overwhelming majority of the tech community is telling them that they’re behind. But hey, this has never been Microsoft’s strong suit, so no surprises here.
- Slack did double their revenue every year for the last 3 years. It is very impressive when compared to Uber’s 30% growth
- Potentially dumb question, but what the fuck is Slack blowing all their money on, other than infrastructure? The app hasn't changed much in years, and they don't really advertise. Are they employing too many Project Managers in charge of gluten-free options for office lunch?
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- I had bad exp with talking to their recruiters, seems like none of them knows their business model. I asked very common questions like who do you work with and how do you want to scale other than being considered as a chat app, she responded “We are not a chat app, and ... why would you ask?”
- Teams is so much better than Slack for collaboration and for those who are already in the O365 ecosystem. The thing integrates beautifully.
- If you have used both Slack and Teams, you would know the answer. Teams is significantly superior to Slack when it comes to collaboration.
Here’s a few things: editing office documents within the app, scheduling meetings including a channel and also booking rooms, video calls with a group, a central view of all documents across all Office apps that you have edited or accessed recently. There are several more examples. Slack just falls short in all these areas.
On the cosmetic front, Teams has had dark mode since like forever. Slack just keeps defferring it. On the flip side I totally hate Teams' lack of good keyboard shortcuts. For a company whose products are landmines of shortcuts, Teams is an outlier.
I will give it to Slack for disrupting the communication space, but they are not large enterprise ready.
- Apple Snut EllaSlack is probably better. It’s also largely irrelevant. Teams doesn’t have to be better, it only needs to be good enough. And it is. Why would I buy a third party app with its inherent operational costs and security and compliance concerns when 90% is already included in my enterprise stack?Apr 28 4
- Roku ⛽️moreSlack is just a chat application with first to mover advantage. There is nothing proprietary there; easy to replicate. I don’t understand why is a chat app going to be a public company. It is just one single product and not a company.