Stick with AT&T or jump to Verizon?

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DDM2K

AT&T Ops

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Windstream
DDM2Kmore
Nov 3, 2017 9 Comments

Recently made an internal move when my department made cuts. 2 years, 4 months in. Looking for feedback and opinions.

Why I’m asking: thinking forward, this economic boom will turn full cycle, I want to make sure I’m in the more secure place of the two when the shit hits the fan. I am looking to take the next 2 years to finish my undergrad (I have the first two years already) and play a part in the rollout of SDN as it replaces previous generation MPLS services.

28 years old, no kids.

Currently:

AT&T
Datacenter Technician
80k, hourly, 3 year lock-in before I can relocate
Silicon Valley
6% 401(k) match at 100%
Small cash-balance pension ($1500/mo at 30 years, $3700 at 40. Seems to have increases tied to life expectancy, not years of service).
$5k/yr tuition reimbursement

Potential Opportunity if offer extended:

Verizon
Voice Engineer
60-75k, salary
Raleigh, NC
6% 401(k) match at 80%
No pension for new hires
$8k/yr tuition reimbursement

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  • Snapchat / Eng
    NewSnapper

    Snapchat Eng

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    Microsoft
    NewSnappermore
    TMo ftw
    Nov 4, 2017 3
    • Snapchat dust2
      Service sucks
      Nov 5, 2017
    • AT&T / Ops
      DDM2K

      AT&T Ops

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      Windstream
      DDM2Kmore
      OP
      They treat their US employees like shit, but if you go to their website, their employees are all happy and have good things to say.
      Nov 5, 2017
    • T-Mobile r83iw2
      TMO Rocks, I love it.
      Apr 9, 2018
  • Wells Fargo kovfe
    What about time off? You will lose your seniority. Although 75k if you can get that will go a lot farther in NC than 80k in Silicon Valley.

    I don't really have much insight into datacenters, but how insulated are you? How much is your job at risk to offshoring or automation? Like I said, I don't have a ton of insight into that profession, but I can't help but think that title carries as much weight as it did 20 years ago.
    Nov 3, 2017 2
    • AT&T / Ops
      DDM2K

      AT&T Ops

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      Windstream
      DDM2Kmore
      OP
      We are remote hands. Our data centers are contractually guaranteed to the customers as being staffed 24/7 by employees in our job title. Each center is staffed by exactly 6 of us. I was hired into the 6th spot following a promotion of one of the techs.

      We have union contracts that are renewed every 3 years, and have a “watermark” guaranteeing a minimum number of employees in our org that AT&T MUST staff.

      I don’t think seniority would have any weight at VZ. A voice engineer would be super easy to outsource, I talked to many of them on the phone while working for Windstream Enterprise Repair.
      Nov 3, 2017
    • Wells Fargo kovfe
      Sounds like you should stay then!
      Nov 4, 2017
  • Microsoft / Sales
    Happynoob

    Microsoft Sales

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    Dell
    Happynoobmore
    Verizon after the creation of OATH is about to go through some serious RIF. Wait till the dust settles. Plus AT&T will be finalizing the TW offer which should open more opportunities
    Nov 4, 2017 0
  • Facebook vso
    There's lots of top companies that do sign on bonuses, its partially made for situations like yours where you would need to reimburse current employer. So don't let that stop you from considering to relocate.

    Remember that sign on is taxable, so ask for more than the amount owed.
    Nov 3, 2017 0

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