Sweden Spotify offer with 57K SEK , 6 YOE

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Got an offer from Spotify Sweden for 57K SEK / month with 6 YOE.
Try to negotiate with HR, it seems they are quite strict about the offer.
It slightly lower from what I earn (58K SEK), but considering the 6 months **full paid** maternity leave, it definitely can compensate the gap.
Also considering company brand, maybe it will also a good investment in resume wise (?).

Take it or leave it?

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  • What role?
    Dec 1, 20189
    • Schibsted / Eng
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      Developer
      Dec 1, 2018
    • This is a shocker for me! The average 6 YOE developer in India makes at least similar sum to £57K in India even after multiplying by the exchange rates and not discounting the PPP.
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Microsoft MSFT!
      1. 57k SEK != £57k.
      2. They said SEK 57k/month. Its not heard of developers making £57k/month in India.

      Now you can rest in peace ✌
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Lol, that was an honest mistake. Well, the Good Developers with 6 YOE in India easily make SEK57K a month, even if you multiply by exchange rates and don't factor PPP.

      57K SEK * 12 = £66K annual which still is not too cool when compared to what developers get in Bay Area or Bangalore
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Logitech Sigurd
      I am shocked too and this makes me really sad.
      I was thinking of moving back to Sweden at some point to start family but if salaries are this depressed, I’ll think twice about it.

      My current TC in the bay of $300k would get slashed by 70%...
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Spotify elogovna
      Join Spotify in US, travel to Sweden few times a year, let company pay for travel. Get all that Scandinavian kink out of your system and then quit Spotify.
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Apple applpark
      Are there a lot of fun things to do in Sweden? Kinda got the impression you guys have to mostly stay indoors since its so cold.
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Spotify elogovna
      It is fun to visit. You will enjoy the food. Just stay away from traditional swedish food (meatballs etc). Great fish, very high quality and authentic ethnic food of all kinds (surprising, I know). Stockholm is nice to visit (good amount to see: views, museums, buildings). Try to go in warmer weather ofcourse to make the best of it.
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Schibsted / Eng
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      Well, not much fun activity during winter except winter sports. Most people visiting each other house and dinner during the winter.
      Dec 1, 2018
  • Logitech Sigurd
    So that would translate to $75k a year before tax?

    This might be the going rate in Stockholm but wow, that’s low compared to CoL.
    Dec 1, 20188
    • New / EngTTNT
      Yes. But the median salary in Sweden is about $30k a year before tax.
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Logitech Sigurd
      Hah what?! That can’t be.
      That means people live on $15k a year after tax as a median salary in one of the most expensive places in the work?

      Where do you get these numbers?
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Schibsted / Eng
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      Don't be surprise with the median. Check here
      https://sweden.se/society/meet-the-average-anderssons/
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Logitech Sigurd
      So I checked your link. It’s about 43K median for somebody working in manufacturing.
      But yes, I get you point. It’s not a lot.
      Dec 1, 2018
    • New / EngTTNT
      The median salary is 290 261 SEK across Sweden. 339 738 SEK in Stockholm.

      That is: $37K in Stockholm and $32K nation wide.

      The numbers you are looking at is for people with +10 years experience.
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Apple applpark
      How do you guys afford living there with these kinds of wages especially after taxes? Do people never eat out and only buy bare necessities? Also heard in Europe you guys love to travel, but how can you do so on those wages unless you only stay at hostels or go to third world cheap destinations?
      Dec 1, 2018
    • New / EngTTNT
      Dude I have no fucking idea. I just moved back to Sweden from NYC and noticed how much prices for everything has gone up, not cheaper than US... I hardly want to pay for a coffee now.

      Rents and gas prices here have gone up insanely too.
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Logitech Sigurd
      Honestly this is nuts.
      I guess you kind of have to move back after reaching exec level or you’ll be underpaid dramatically compared to CoL.
      Dec 1, 2018
  • Vertivco / Eng
    Warp Zone

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    What does YEO stand for? Yeoman?
    Dec 1, 20181
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      Oops, my bad. (edited)
      Dec 1, 2018
  • Spotify rMBN05
    That's what is about average for Spotify Stockholm, and is competitive-ish in the market. Same is true in NYC, decently competitive to local market. HR is making steps to improve compensation at most tech levels to be at a higher competitive point
    Dec 1, 20185
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      Do you think the Spotify brand will value up your resume?
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Spotify rMBN05
      Hard to say, I think in a couple years time it will be a very solid point. What you learn while here depends on what mission and squad you're on. Some are working on very impactful eng works, while others wouldn't help you level up much. But it's also self driven in that regards
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Schibsted / Eng
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      Does SDK count as "core" tribe? personally I didn't hear too much Spotify SDK before the interview.
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Spotify will be acquired by Microsoft, Amazon or Apple by 2019 end
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Spotify rMBN05
      Iirc (have to check org chat) sdk is average at Spotify. But I do not have much contact with them, unfortunately cannot help much with that exact area
      Dec 1, 2018
  • Move JUvY31
    That is about 4k usd per month after tax. Cost of living is very high....
    Dec 1, 20188
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      Actually it’s not that high as you come as a tourist. Most of family cook and only eat outside once a week.
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Move JUvY31
      What is cost of rent a nice 1 bedroom ?
      Dec 1, 2018
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      ~10K SEK
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Move JUvY31
      Ok didnt realize it's this affordable
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Logitech Sigurd
      The problem in Stockholm is that there is such a shortage in housing that it’s almost impossible to get a flat unless you’ve been in a queue for 20 years or you buy your own place.

      If those are not options, then you’ll have to go sublet under the table and those rents run you way past 10k.
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Move JUvY31
      How much to sublet?
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Move JUvY31
      Seems like maybe just enough tc for good life but cannot save much and cannot afford true luxury like flying business class
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Logitech Sigurd
      Lol... who can afford biz class unless you actually are flying for business?!
      Dec 1, 2018
  • Spotify / Engsadpanda81
    The 6 months in Sweden is not a spotify perk, that’s a country perk. Parents also get a total of 18 months combined. How you and your SO break that up is up to you.
    Dec 1, 20186
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      No, you are wrong. Sweden only paid only 80% up to 37917 SEK.
      Check here for the details.
      https://www.forsakringskassan.se/privatpers/foralder/nar_barnet_ar_fott/foraldrapenning
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Spotify / Engsadpanda81
      Where specifically am i wrong? I’m asking for a friend
      Dec 1, 2018
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      This is wrong "The 6 months in Sweden is not a Spotify perk".
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Spotify RGwD86
      6 months parental leave with full pay is a global Spotify benefit. Parents in Sweden get up to 18 months parental leave with some pay, but nowhere near full pay (unless your employer ponies up the delta which Spotify does for 6 months).
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Spotify / Engsadpanda81
      Interesting, that wasn’t my understanding. Thanks for clarifying, I only thought it was a “perk” in the states for obvious reasons. I didn’t know that Spotify had to add more money into the equation in STO.
      Dec 1, 2018
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      Does new hired qualified to get the 6 months full pay maternity leave if he/she already has a baby ( < 1 year old) before sign-in?
      Dec 1, 2018
  • Intuit CTODEV
    6 full == 6 days? Weeks? Months?
    Dec 1, 20182
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      It's Sweden, pretty sure it's six months.
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Schibsted / Eng
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      Yes, 6 months
      Dec 1, 2018
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    • Schibsted / Eng
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      Only options
      Dec 1, 2018
  • Amazon uRmL00
    Take it. That’s pretty huge and Spotify has a bright future
    Dec 1, 20181
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      Pretty huge compare with?
      Dec 1, 2018
  • Apple applpark
    Just move to USA, there are tech companies that also have 6 month maternity leave like Salesforce and will offer you at least three times the TC with less taxes.
    Dec 1, 20180

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