T4 Google ,please help with honest evaluation

Amazon / Eng broncavs
May 25, 2018 28 Comments

I have been offered T4 Seattle area

134k Base
280k stocks/4years
20k Signon
Also 15% bonus.

Total yoe 4yrs as well as Masters in CS.

Current SDE2 tc - 190k

This is no way close to other T4 offers I have seen in blind. I think I did extremely well in interviews and recruiter said feedback was also very good.

I have competing offer from Oracle (total 270k ic3) LinkedIn Bay (270k tc - Senior) and Uber bay area (total 275k tc)

They said it is final offer and are not willing to budge.

Are other T4 way inflated in blind or Google decide to give me the least. Not sure which case it is.

Any help or suggestions would be great ?
Am I being extremely lowballed ?

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  • Google / Eng AhsX64
    Pretty normal starter T4 offer. Don’t listen to anecdotes. Surprised they won’t budge. Possibly recruiter is BSing you or they don’t view those stocks as comparable (no fb offer?)
    May 25, 2018 2
    • Amazon / Eng broncavs
      OP
      Did not get through Fb (despite 2 follow up interviews beyond onsite). Seems like Google only matches Fb.
      May 25, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng broncavs
      OP
      Any idea what is the avg annual T4 stock refresher for meeting expectations?
      May 25, 2018
  • New harryi
    May 25, 2018 0
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    • Amazon / Eng broncavs
      OP
      I think Bay area offers are generally higher. I also like PNW and team in Google sounds interesting. Again I haven't decided anything as such though.
      May 25, 2018
    • Amazon shammer
      Is Oracle OCI in Seattle? I would take that if you want to stay
      May 25, 2018
  • Google tGtt04
    It looks like a reasonable T4 offer.
    May 25, 2018 0
  • Facebook nycuser
    I think u r being lowballed. My L3 friend got 240K TC with competing linkedin offer. Did google ask the offer letters from other companies for verification or did they just take ur word?
    May 25, 2018 3
    • Amazon / Eng broncavs
      OP
      Took my word , I gave them details of other offers.
      May 25, 2018
    • Facebook nycuser
      Yeah that was in bay area and he had LinkedIn and twitter offers to negotiate with
      May 25, 2018
    • Facebook nycuser
      OP, what stops you from saying that u have a FB offer if they are not really verifying. If u r not feeling bad morally, u can just pick one of the E4 FB offers from Blind.
      May 25, 2018
  • Google eINi17
    The default L4 offer it is. Negotiate and you will get at least 150 base + 300k+ stocks
    May 25, 2018 0
  • Oracle uzvocid
    Come to OCI
    May 26, 2018 1
    • Oracle uzvocid
      BTW, could you share the OCI offer details?
      May 26, 2018
  • Microsoft RanknFile
    The probably only consider FB as a competitor/company you’d be willing to give up G for.
    May 25, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng broncavs
      OP
      Seems like it. And they aren't wrong....
      May 25, 2018
  • Amazon max9chars
    Seems at par with SDE2 Amazon TC. Take it.
    May 25, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng broncavs
      OP
      Yeah it is almost 30k more. Plus signon on top.
      May 25, 2018
  • Google iegb37
    What's the Uber level
    May 25, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng broncavs
      OP
      Se 2
      May 25, 2018
  • Amazon Maco
    Wow first world problems
    May 25, 2018 1
    • Nvidia nvsmartpm
      Don’t be jealous ah.
      May 25, 2018
  • Oath sIvh52
    Consider the state tax on 275k to be about 25k plus cost of living is also a lot higher

    Try and negotiate a bit more with Google

    L3 Bay area here
    Base 145k + 15%
    Rsu 460k/ 4 years
    Jun 7, 2018 0
  • TripAdvisor MjQK82
    Op, could you post the updated number? I think google could go way higher than this. But seems like you got to declined it first.
    May 28, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Eng
    mfcndw

    Facebook Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
    mfcndwmore
    Sounds like they're confident that you'll choose Google for the name over money. I'd say make the decision depending on do you want to move to bay area or not.
    May 27, 2018 0
  • Take Uber
    May 26, 2018 0
  • Uber ygf3dfg
    Is Uber offer with or without including bonus? How many yoe after masters?
    May 25, 2018 0
  • Google / Eng
    jsidbfigb

    Google Eng

    PRE
    LinkedIn, Facebook
    jsidbfigbmore
    Did you interview well with Google? Sounds like they aren't really valuing you.
    May 25, 2018 0