Team and product vs TC/Prestige

Amazon ally28
Feb 17 16 Comments

Does anyone actually care about what product they’re working on? Or are people just joining these FAANG companies for high TC only and dont actually care what they work on?

I’m a new grad, and although I chose a lesser prestige company, Amazon, I at least made a huge effort to find a product I was passionate about. And the work is very interesting and exciting.

I know that Google offers awesome benefits, food and higher TC but I would hate my life if all I did was work on some internal tool used to measure some random ass ad metric by some business folks. It sounds like finding a “cool” project is much more difficult at a place like Google due to all overachievers working there so my chances would be next to slim as a ‘stupid’ new grad of leaving this internal tool team. Am I looking at this in the correct way? I get lots of hate for staying at Amazon from my friends. But then I ask them what they work on and it’s usually some internal tool or some advertising dashboard bullshit.

EDIT: TC 150k. YOE 1

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  • Apple industry
    I feel you. Apple is not as prestigious as google but I chose apple over google because I love the product that I am working on. I do a mix of SWE, science and ML geared towards the apple watch and it is so much more fulfilling than the role I was offered at google. At google, I was gonna be a data scientist on the ads team which pretty much entails improving some random ass ad metrics all the while competing with cut throat overachievers. A big no for me. The pay at Apple is slightly lower, the perks are essentially non-existent but my team is awesome and I wake up looking forward to go to work.

    Don't jump companies just for higher TC/prestige if you are making comfortable money and find your work exciting and fulfilling. Your new role might crush your soul.

    In any case, Amazon is a reputable company and you should not have problems getting interviews from any of the FAANG companies if you choose to move in the future.

    What exactly is the problem with your friends? Are they giving you hate just because you work at a "lower prestige" company? If so, it's time to find a new set of friends.
    Feb 17 4
    • Amazon ally28
      OP
      Yes thats why they give me hate. They think I can do better for myself and should leave because Amazon has such a shitty reputation. They all think they’re better off at google because of higher TC and free food. Lol. I get emails from goog, ms, and fb recruiters all the time. But I’m literally just a few months into my career. I should probably learn some stuff at least before considering moving
      Feb 17
    • Apple industry
      If you are just a few months into your career, you should definitely not be thinking of moving unless you are in a toxic environment or you find yourself in an extenuating circumstance. Since it sounds like you actually like your job, I would advise staying and learning the tricks of the trade.

      Your friends sound a bit shallow tbh. Aspiring for higher TC and free food is not evil but giving you hate because you have other goals is deplorable.
      Feb 17
    • Amazon JSnowflake
      New hire TC is nearly the same from Google to Amazon. Don't get hung up on 5-10k differences and free food at this stage in your career. Focus on product, team and learning and growth opportunities.
      Feb 18
    • Amazon ally28
      OP
      It’s not though. With their annual perf bonuses new grads can clear 200k. Thats 30% higher TC
      Feb 18
  • New yuppppp
    Why is building advertising dashboard bullshit? Working on this and then finding a job in Analytics or data role in Ad agencies - you will be paid premium!

    Every role has its own challenge and it’s up to you to redefine your role to create the greatest impact. Advertising is one the best industries due to exploding data needs.
    Feb 17 3
    • Amazon ally28
      OP
      I was being extreme with my wording. I understand how big it is from a business standpoint. But as an engineer that’s not what I had in mind as far as what product I would work on. I did ads at my last company and I was bored out of my mind. Plus I really hate ads
      Feb 17
    • New yuppppp
      Understood. But I would say, scope of work and scope of learning can be decoupled. For an engineer or for anyone is business (am on business side), choose the product that makes sense for you and sprinkle in some brand name products/companies to tell better long term Career story. Obviously, the choices you make plus some luck will yield better results. You will never get it right all the time. Some suggestions:

      1. Always be present
      2. Your current project (however boring) is a path to the next one. Hint - if you are bored, do side project
      3. Build network - long term it will create wonders
      4. Be clear in communication - understand different perspectives but have a strong POV
      5. Never stop being relevant.

      Hope it’s helpful. 12 YOE in all sorts of environments gave me something share. But am no perfect. Limitations drive creativity!
      Feb 17
    • Amazon ally28
      OP
      Thanks for the advice!
      Feb 17
  • Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
    Would you still say this if you had an offer from Google to work on said internal tools?
    Feb 18 1
    • Amazon ally28
      OP
      After working on my current team i’m not so sure anymore
      Feb 18
  • Apple py1
    You are wise for your age. “In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is a freak”. Pay no heed to your friends.
    Feb 17 0
  • New / Design Yesterday-
    Joined Google while I was finishing up Grad School. Hated the work but enjoyed the lifestyle. Eventually found something interesting to do with way less pay and did that for a few years. However, now I’m trying to make up for the poor compensation.

    Someone once told me with any opportunity you have to look at Pay, People and Passion. Likely will only get 2 of 3 but not all 3.
    Feb 17 2
    • Apple industry
      What were you working on at Google? Ads?
      Feb 17
    • Amazon ally28
      OP
      I’m fortunate to have found all 3 of those in my current role. Although pay is subjective, Amazon should definitely be considered among the top right?
      My TC is 150k and I’m out of undergrad.
      Feb 17
  • Microsoft UMbR31
    Brand names get you the next interview / startup funding, what exactly you learnt will get you the job / your company succeeding. TC and net worth will happen automatically as long as you do your job diligently in a public company.

    So it's a trade-off for a low yoe, where you sit in the spectrum is your choice.
    Feb 17 0

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