Tepid interest in product managers from recruiters on LinkedIn? 🤔

Amazon Itouchyou
Jan 17, 2018 21 Comments

I’m a Senior Product Manager (L6 PM-T for those who know Amazon) with ~5 years industry experience at two relatively trendy companies. I have 4 major new product launches under my belt and countless smaller launches. I played major roles or was the lead in those launches. I have a good track record of success and marketable skills in the usual areas like product strategy, complex data analysis, ML, huge web services, UX, agile etc. I have a polished LinkedIn profile and have ~1,300 connections most who I’ve actually met in person. I turned the “Open to Recruiters” thing on at the end of last year just because I was curious to see the response I’d get.

~1-3 recruiter requests or contacts a month. Pretty tepid interest. I get that it’s not peak hiring season. I get that in Product most new opportunities will be through networking and connections. I was still surprised how little traction I got on LinkedIn/how cold the market was when I tested. It’s making me less interested in spending any time at all cultivating my LinkedIn profile.

Is this in line with your recent experience or am I just an unattractive candidate on LinkedIn? Does LinkedIn suck for Product or do I just suck? Any SDE at a comparable company with a pulse and the ability to reverse a 32 bit unsigned integer is getting hit up 10+ times a week by recruiters... 😭

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  • Amazon / Other Ex-Banker
    Real talk. In the tech world, PMs at Amazon just aren't that coveted. A PM friend at Google had to turn off his open to recruiter option because he was getting an average of 5 messages daily from recruiters.
    Jan 17, 2018 3
    • Amazon Itouchyou
      OP
      Why aren’t they coveted? I’ve seen lots of strong PMs at Amazon who should be interesting to other employers and who have a great track record/resume/background. Amazon is attractive place for strong PMs because you have a lot of influence to actually create and test product, the business moves quickly and the customer problems are interesting. Seen weak PMs just barely cutting it too, though, and Amazon hires a lot. What do you think?
      Jan 17, 2018
    • Microsoft C#
      Weird. The worst PM on my team got managed out and landed a job at Google somehow. She was truly awful.

      Not passing judgment on G overall obviously. Know plenty of other great PMs there. But weird that recruiters just assume everyone there is gold
      Jan 17, 2018
    • Squarespace Squarespac
      How is the interest in PM roles in general? Compared to the interest in software engineers for a comparison point?
      Jan 17, 2018
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    • Amazon AmTe
      Actually I disagree with that.. owners, data driven and relentless.. that’s how I would define most PM’s at amazon.. a lot of amazon PM’s work on defining the business roadmap.. TPM’s are different
      Jan 17, 2018
    • Amazon Itouchyou
      OP
      This is definitely not true. I set the strategy for my product, do tons of research/data analysis to back it up and decide what we will build/why/when. The TPM on my team is more focused on execution (project management). What you describe could be true at Microsoft but I don’t know.
      Jan 17, 2018
    • LinkedIn Askmeanyth
      It’s about perception, not actually about reality
      Jan 17, 2018
  • LinkedIn
    gaijin1

    LinkedIn

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    gaijin1more
    Amzn PMs suck. Most of the hires are alums from overrated MBA programs hiring others from the same program.
    Jan 18, 2018 1
  • Microsoft
    yMcg47

    Microsoft

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    Amicitiae nostrae memoriam spero sempiternam fore
    yMcg47more
    In general there are fewer PM roles than technical roles (sde, scientists, researchers). There are also more PM supply. They’re a dime a dozen because any joe schmoe can claim to be a pm.

    Because of this demand:supply is a lot lower for PM than tech roles.

    What you’re observing is normal. I had an old boss (ceo of a startup; vp of some large companies) who had trouble landing a pm position. Took him a long time.
    Jan 17, 2018 2
    • Microsoft / Product
      kingding

      Microsoft Product

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      kingdingmore
      Big difference between claiming to be a PM and being one, if someone can't hire a true PM then they should probably change recruitment tactics. There is nothing valid about this statement.
      Jan 17, 2018
    • Jet JKLOT
      Dime a dozen. Someone once told me that about engineers. :eyeroll:
      Jan 19, 2018
  • eBay Wony35
    I recently shifted a job as PM. Ensure your linked in profile has the right terms so it gets picked up in searches. Happy to help review yours and give suggestions if you are interested. PM me. Networking usually works best though in my experience.
    Jan 17, 2018 4
    • Amazon AmTe
      I second that.. I just received an offer that is ~80% higher than my current TC.. will be accepting soon..
      Jan 17, 2018
    • Microsoft COVFEFE201
      Which company?
      Jan 17, 2018
    • Amazon AmTe
      The company has a legendary CEO
      Jan 17, 2018
    • Microsoft COVFEFE201
      Lol. Zuck?
      Jan 17, 2018
  • LinkedIn Halftrump
    Step 1- are you located near competitor companies? No? Might want to change that setting of where you’d be willing to relocate to.
    Step 2- are you networked to employees at companies you’d like to be courted by? No? Start stretching those wings.
    Step 3- is your profile robust with skills, descriptions of the projects you’ve worked on and how they’ve impacted the business? Do you have recommendations from bosses, stakeholders, coworkers, and clients? No? Time to put a little work into that profile to make your professional profile of record globally pop.
    Jan 18, 2018 0
  • CoreLogic / Product
    SemiLogic

    CoreLogic Product

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    Product Manager
    SemiLogicmore
    Weird. I get reached out to every 1.5 days for similar roles...and my company is relatively unknown. ~7yrs exp as PM.
    Jan 17, 2018 0
  • Cisco / Eng Mylady
    My ex boss who currently works as VP of Product told me the same thing. Even for him it takes a while to land a job and it comes through networking.
    Jan 17, 2018 0
  • Microsoft
    Fjjdjdh

    Microsoft

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    Amazon
    Fjjdjdhmore
    I’ve had direct experience with this. PMs from Amazon are just not that desirable compared to google PMs.
    Jan 17, 2018 0