Tesla just showcased full self driving. Thoughts? 🍿

New / Engstarl0rd
Apr 23 22 Comments

Things to note in the video:
- Stop signs
- Yields signs
- Traffic lights
- Speed limits
- Merging Lanes

All this without LIDAR. I am interested in understanding the opinion of people from Waymo, Uber, Tesla and other companies working on self-driving tech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlThdr3O5Qo

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TOP 22 Comments
  • Yelp djang0
    I would take any announcement by musk around quarterly earnings with a grain of salt
    Apr 230
  • Google / Eng
    Qlan

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    Qlanmore
    Self driving is easy in 99% of situations. What is hard (very very hard) is to get the 1% right.
    Apr 234
    • New / Engstarl0rd
      OP
      But are we humans better than that 1%?
      Apr 23
    • Google / Engshito
      But here is the problem - if the self driving tech is as good as humans, it's no use. Human psychology dictates that you are generally forgiving even if you were at fault, only as long as you were on the driver's seat.

      People feel falsely safe in their cars when they drive than if they are being driven by someone else.

      For self driving tech to succeed, it has to be significantly better, or the stuff can't be justified.
      Apr 23
    • Groupon / Engsleepy
      Perfectly summed up!
      Apr 23
    • Apple Yupp!
      But that’s where machine learning and neural network will come in play . Humans will remain the same but FSD will keep becoming better n better
      Apr 23
  • Uber / EngUnofficial
    PR stunt before ER.
    Apr 230
  • Facebook shitposts
    Love Tesla car, have one. Generally like Musk but he is a royal bullshitter and this empty claim about taxis by 2020 is pure horse shit. As amazing as the autopilot and these new capabilities are, I can’t imagine Tesla being anywhere near the true autonomous driving (other companies included)
    Apr 230
  • And in the meantime a Tesla self destructed in Shanghai.
    Apr 230
  • Microsoft MSFTBRO
    Is in on a perfect day without any rain? Probably
    Apr 230
  • Microsoft FBisEvil
    Elon is always lying. This FSD promo is just to paint the news cycle bc Wednesday their numbers are going to be horrible. He can’t build a profitable car company so he wants to be valued on autonomous driving lol.

    Elon doesn’t care about this company. That’s why he embezzled from it to bailout his and his cousins insolvent solar city company. It about money. Elon has taken margin loans against his Tesla equity and cannot have the stock price go down too much, even if that’d be good for the company.

    https://twitter.com/richardkeppler1/status/1120888716132790272?s=21

    3/19/15 (NYT) -"Musk Says Self-Driving $TSLA Cars Will Be in the U.S. by Summer"

    10/19/16 (Wired) -"MUSK SAYS EVERY NEW TESLA CAN DRIVE ITSELF"

    1/24/17 (Electrek) -"Tesla to transition from ‘Enhanced Autopilot’ to ‘Fully Self-Driving’ as soon as ‘3 to 6 months’, says Musk"
    Apr 231
    • New / Engstarl0rd
      OP
      TBH that flex tweet got me.
      Apr 24
  • Uber / EngUnofficial
    Yes, this is possible on a Perfect day, perfect technology, prefect human behavior, perfect regulatory framework, perfect support infrastructure


    Only Musk believes by 2020. One chip and software alone doesn’t solve
    Unpredictability of human behavior , weather conditions, and lack of ride share network with actual human drivers
    Apr 231
    • New / Engstarl0rd
      OP
      So, it's still driver's assistance at it's best?
      Apr 23
  • Google / Engshito
    No humans crossing the road, no construction zone.

    Are there anything else that is obviously missing here in the demo?
    Apr 232
    • New / Engstarl0rd
      OP
      Well, we all remember Uber death of pedestrian.
      Apr 23
    • Addepar nAeb35
      ^this
      Apr 23
  • Tesla uhhyhhgh
    Andrej is right. LIDAR is a shortcut to FSD. But at the end of the day it’s very expensive and ugly.
    Here’s an example https://youtu.be/7Hlb8YX2-W8
    Apr 232
    • General Motors QEmN10
      Come on, is there a Tesla required training for drinking the kool aid. Literally every other company is using a similar approach except Tesla. There’s a fine line between crazy genius and just crazy. Not one demo at night, with sun glare, snow or lots of rain?
      Apr 23
    • Tesla uhhyhhgh
      With lidar you just save time. Makes no sense in case with fsd
      Apr 23
  • Apple industry
    Accident waiting to happen
    Apr 230
  • SAP mooooo
    😍
    Apr 230

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