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Tesla model 3 is too expensive

VMware kthxbye1
Dec 30, 2018

I think the model 3 is way too expensive given that you spend close to 48,000 with auto pilot and full 310 mile range and loan. This gives you no supercharging too. Am I missing something or is this all you get for 48,000 USD. Help me decide before the 31st 😊 I'm 6 years into my gasoline car and thinking if I should go for the model 3. But with this and the 310 mile range without supercharging, im concerned. Also, I live in a apartment in the bay area without any charging capability and take trips to nearby places (500 mile rt) once a month. So, is this really worth it?

TC:190k

Edit: will update on 31st if I bought the car or not.

Edit: didn't buy the car today, 31st. 😏the car is nice, but the total cost of ownership comes to 53000 and not 48000. That's actually 8000 more than my top line budget.

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  • Reddit nononoyes
    One point is almost all luxury cars have lane assist + auto follow now which is almost as good as tesla “self driving”
    Dec 30, 20184
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      This. I thought about this. Do they get over there air software upgrades? I'm also a sucker for something which gets quality upgrades over the air. I guess the question now is will Tesla's get exponentially or at least linearly better over time with existing hardware.
      Dec 30, 2018
    • Informatica / EngTC<200k
      Any German luxury car with these upgrades will go to 45k+ easily. Quality control is bad in the Tesla models compared to German counterparts. But the value doesn't seem to drop like German models (at least in model S).
      Dec 30, 2018
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      Imho: German cars need higher maintenance and if you skip you pay later. Electric cars have a different life cycle, so it's not a fair comparison
      Dec 30, 2018
    • Amazon ufkggjjy
      Very false. Lane assist and auto follow is leagues away from autopilot. Not even close.
      Dec 30, 2018
  • Facebook patrick_ur
    Why not buy Porsche?
    Dec 30, 201813
    • New / EngPepe.Frog
      Too cheap. Just get a model S so you have no regrets.
      Dec 30, 2018
    • Amazon Invisibl
      Tesla 3s come with all hardware and setup to support full autonomous driving, whenever that comes to live
      Dec 30, 2018
    • Vlocity FTJU
      No it does not. That is an extra 2000. 7000 in all if you want the current self driving features and the enhanced hardware that supports full self driving.
      Dec 30, 2018
    • Uber 8bithit
      Tesla will never be full autonomous there’s no lidar
      Dec 30, 2018
    • Amazon Invisibl
      All the hardware is there to support it, I’m not saying you get it right away. When the full autonomous technology comes, there won’t be need for lidars
      Dec 30, 2018
    • Google poogers
      Keep telling yourself that while Tesla continues to ship beta software written by people working 80 hour weeks.
      Dec 30, 2018
    • VMware humwell
      You dont need Lidar to be full autonomous @8bithit
      Dec 30, 2018
    • You may not need Lidar to qualify as "full autonomous" but don't you want something better than plain old cameras just in case to catch those fatal edge cases?
      Dec 31, 2018
    • VMware humwell
      “Old cameras” hahahah we have literally been driving cars with only our eyes since the 1880s.
      Dec 31, 2018
    • Salesforce willforce
      That's the point, humwell. It is not fully autonomous if you still have to look out for hazards.
      Dec 31, 2018
  • Facebook
    Instagrаm

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    Instagrаmmore
    It is expensive and not worth it.
    The advertised 35k price was never true.
    Dec 30, 20183
    • Amazon Roombo
      Maybe its the massive iPad Pro included in the console
      Dec 30, 2018
    • Uber kPCK48
      Yeah, an iPad is totally worth $10k
      Dec 30, 2018
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      😊
      Dec 31, 2018
  • Roku / Eng
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    With a sad ass 190k TC you shouldn’t even have a car.
    Dec 30, 20188
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      Troll. We definitely need one per post. Just fuck off mate.
      Dec 31, 2018
    • Roku / Eng
      ~head

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      Yahoo
      ~headmore
      Why do you need a new car? And crib that it is expensive. Signs that you are shooting for something that you cannot afford. You wouldn’t get this because you are dumb.
      Dec 31, 2018
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      you make a good point now. Why exactly do I need a new car? bcos the maintenance on this a4 is becoming expensive. Is the a4 paid off? Yes. Again why exactly do I need a new one? If I don't sell this a4 now, it'll depreciate further greatly. Is this a good reason to buy a new car? I don't know.
      Dec 31, 2018
    • Roku / Eng
      ~head

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      ~headmore
      Now you don’t make any sense, You also don’t know how to do math.
      Dec 31, 2018
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      OK dude. Now gtfo. 😠
      Dec 31, 2018
    • Roku / Eng
      ~head

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      This is anonymous app bro, your gtfo has no value. I will let you embrace the dumbness. 🏃🏼‍♂️✌️
      Dec 31, 2018
    • Intuit 👿 Lucifer
      OP what makes your a4 maintenance expensive at year 6?
      Jan 3
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      Routine maintenance plus small things just add up. There was air conditioning issue last year which cost 1500. The DSG service is due at 80k. Compare that to an electric car which don't have such hassles except for the AC thing which could happen with Tesla too.
      Jan 3
  • Intel Pakshab
    If you can’t charge at home or work, there’s no point.

    The cost-benefit depends on your cost of gas and home electricity. For every 100K miles, a Model 3 will save you about $10K ($.12/kWh and $4/gallon gas) between that plus regular maintenance like oil changes that are no longer needed.

    To date, Tesla’s have also depreciated about 20% less than equivalent cars, so you might save $5K of resale on the backend.

    Tax credit is probably gone at this point, so that doesn’t factor in I don’t believe.

    Net/net, it’s cost equivalent combustion engine equal brand auto would need to cost around $33K. The base model of a 320i AWD starts at $37K.
    Dec 30, 20183
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      Thanks for the break down. I can squeeze in a charge at work btw
      Dec 30, 2018
    • LinkedIn Zeiwkf5
      Keep in mind the tax credit doesn’t disappear. It just gets halved. Will completely disappear end of 2019
      Dec 30, 2018
    • Intel Pakshab
      You can use my Tesla referral link to get six months of free Supercharging on Model S, Model X or Model 3. You can also get a 5-year extended warranty on solar panels. http://ts.la/david9207
      Dec 30, 2018
  • Don't waste your money on this shit. Buy a used car save 20k
    Dec 30, 20184
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      This is very true. New cars are such a waste since it depreciates once you drive off the lot. Something to think about for sure...
      Dec 31, 2018
    • Intel Pakshab
      The myth that cars go down 50% in value when you drive them off the lot is based on data from the 1950s when there was a new model every year. Now that they only refresh every 5-6 years, they depreciate about 20% per year.

      Also, chicks don’t dig dudes in $20K used sedans. Consider it an investment in your future spouse.
      Dec 31, 2018
    • If your "chick" doesn't approve of a 3 year old car to save money. They are not future spouse material
      Dec 31, 2018
    • Intel Pakshab
      I’ve never met a women who was turned off by a guy driving a new car. Why would you limit yourself to the 50% of the female population who thinks “Wow, that guy driving a Hyundai is pretty goddamn sensible”? Simple math. Peacocking is basic biology.
      Jan 1
  • Vlocity FTJU
    But the construction quality is not the same as a BMW or Audi. I recently test drove a model 3 and while I loved the way the car handled, construction flaws were apparent. Missing paint, screws at weird angles..the trunks don't close smoothly. A car that costs 60k should be flawless.
    Dec 30, 20181
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      Ok. So the question is whether these things would be fixed in the next iterations.
      Dec 30, 2018
  • Facebook vdtyjnvcfg
    I bought the rear wheel drive version with no autopilot and no addons. With the tax rebate it comes to about $36k. Frankly I didn’t feel the autopilot was worth the extra 5k and the range for the rear wheel drive was sufficient. Go with the lowest specs, it’s worth it and still fun to drive.
    Dec 30, 201810
    • Microsoft / EngSherloc
      Auto pilot is completely worth it and in my opinion the main reason to buy the car
      Dec 30, 2018
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      Actually I dream of auto pilot taking the wheel with higher autonomy 😊it's kind of important for me 😬to the extent that I'm willing to work for free to ramp it up.
      Dec 30, 2018
    • Uber kPCK48
      *rear wheel drive
      Dec 30, 2018
    • Intel Pakshab
      Autopilot with current regulation where you have to jiggle the steering wheel every 30 secs does not enable the user experience you think it does.
      Dec 30, 2018
    • Tesla / Mgmt
      t3$l@

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      t3$l@more
      Lol, you do not have to juggle the wheel 30 seconds. You just need to have your hands on the wheel. Please drive one for a substantial time.
      Dec 31, 2018
    • Intel Pakshab
      Not in mine - you have to move it side to side for it to recognize your hands are on the wheel. The sensor is in the steering column, not on the steering wheel.
      Dec 31, 2018
    • Facebook vdtyjnvcfg
      As far as I know the autopilot has these three main features.

      1. Automatically maintain appropriate distance from the car in front of you.

      2. Lane keeping and automatically changing lanes when you signal it to.

      3. Automatically detect a parking spot and park there.

      Although, these are pretty cool features, this is why I feel it’s not worth it.

      1. The model 3 without enhanced autopilot already has forward collision detection and will warn you if you get too close to the vehicle in front. With autopilot, even though it maintains the distance appropriately, you always have to be alert to take over from it.

      2. The model 3 without autopilot already has lane departure warnings and hence I didn’t feel lane keeping was worth it. Changing lanes automatically is cool, but didn’t feel it’s worth the extra 5k, since it’s a very basic task that I can do on my own easily.

      3. Again, autonomous parking is cool, but it’s a simple enough task that I wouldn’t spend 5k on it.
      Dec 31, 2018
    • Flowcast lulll
      You will never be able to sell your car lul
      Dec 31, 2018
    • Tesla / Mgmt
      t3$l@

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      t3$l@more
      You need to drive the car to know what lane keeping distance keeping and lane changing together do. Drive it for a month when you get the trial and decide for yourself

      The one saying he needs to steer every 30 seconds. It is a torque sensor not a motion sensor, you hold the steering that is enough for it to know there is resistance, if you have to turn it every 30 seconds your hands are not on the wheel or your sensor is faulty
      Dec 31, 2018
    • Intel Pakshab
      From what I’ve read online (I looked it up after reading this), the problem is that if you have both hands on the wheel, there is no torque detected. So no 10 and 2 while you supposedly are paying attention.

      Also, lane changing is nowhere close to as smooth as a human, which means you shouldn’t rely on it. I’ve had several situations where it was a near death experience as the car bounces back and forth as it tries to figure out which lane to be in.

      Believe me, I love my Tesla and I find autopilot enormously helpful on long drives for relieving fatigue, but both of those features are worse than human capability.
      Jan 1
  • Microsoft / EngSherloc
    I can’t bring myself to get one and I love Tesla. The 3 just doesn’t have the same looks and experience as the S.
    Dec 30, 20183
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      Dude, I love the model $. I test drove one last year. I would be test driving the model 3 for the first time tomorrow. Why do you think it does not feel same as the $??
      Dec 30, 2018
    • Microsoft / EngSherloc
      You’ll see… The instrument cluster in the three sucks, they don’t look the same the S feels like driving the Batmobile the three feels like an expensive electric car. Auto pilot is nice though-probably would’ve been better to get a three with the free supercharging
      Dec 30, 2018
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      Interesting. Thanks for sharing👍
      Dec 30, 2018
  • New ejXl62
    No doubt it’s an impressive car but take a step back and rethink are you planning to buy because it will save thousands of dollars in gas. The shirt answer is it will save few thousands over a course of 7-8 years but upfront cost is so huge that it’s not economical. Now if u r buying it for the experience then it’s a completely diff story.

    So if cost is an issue then don’t go for it but if liking is the issue then go for it.
    Dec 31, 20181
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      Personally I would be buying it primarily for the electric vehicle torque, autonomous driving capabilities.
      Dec 31, 2018
  • Walmart.com BrownPPL
    Audi A6 is under promotion. 15K off minimum. I ll trade my gas saving for an Audi!
    Dec 30, 20181
    • VMware kthxbye1
      OP
      I drive an Audi a4 actually. it's 6yrs in. I actually luv it😏 haven't checked out the a6 just yet.
      Dec 30, 2018
  • Amazon LoanerBadg
    Wait a few years to prices to drop and range to increase.
    Dec 30, 20181
    • LinkedIn Zeiwkf5
      Might be A LOT of years. Also keep in mind that all Tesla’s are going up $7500 next year.
      Dec 30, 2018
  • New WRmQ84
    Bought it recently. Expensive? Yes. Worth it? Yes!
    Dec 30, 20180
  • Intel ""(^_^)""
    48000! Its cheap for model 3!
    Dec 31, 20182
    • Facebook
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      With that money you can buy an awesome gas SUV, like Hyundai SantaFe with all options, and still have a few $k for vacation.
      Dec 31, 2018
    • Intel Pakshab
      Lol, “awesome SUV like Hyundai Santa Fe.” Didn’t know Blind let high school chicks join.
      Jan 3
  • New / Consultant
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    buy the stock. lol
    Jan 30

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