This is what you get for pushing things too much to the left. Tax the shit out of people and keep expanding government benefits. One day the economy will start hurting and the house of cards falls down. Taxes hurt. Socialism sucks. Big governments are ineffective! Itās this extreme left which is responsible for people like Trump to get elected. I am an independent voter. Mostly voted D. But I am done with them. This new breed of Ocasio Cortezās can worry about which bathrooms to use and stuff. But I want a safe and financially sound country first.
Lol, too left. Macron cut taxes for the rich and claims that public services need to be cut to pay the deficit.
If that's what left is, i'm worried about what OP thinks the right is. The real problem of course is all the self assured dumb people out there like OP.
This.
Literally nothing you said has anything to do with the specific economic policy that triggered the protests in France.
The fuel tax was only a trigger. The tax burden on the French is just crazy. OECD ranks France as the highest taxed country among its members.
The leader cut other taxes and social programs. Why would right-wingers be against that? Throughout this thread you falsely conflate leftists like Ocasio-Cortez with neo-liberals like Macron, despite their polar differences.
The larger issue is not Trump Macron or some other individual person. Trump might be a pig or a God. The issue is Europe pushing itself into deep socialism with very high taxes. But in this globalized economy, disruptions can happen from any small country that is willing to work hard. Just like in business, incumbents should not take their market leadership and balance sheet for granted. All this extreme left agenda falls flat in the face of a shrinking balance sheet. Europe needs to become more business friendly, reduce their expenses on benefits and worry about being disrupted in the global market. It was only a matter of time before Europe saw a spring as well for the economic rut they are going into. Brexit was just the beginning. The liberals in the US also have been dreaming about a European style socialist society. Bernie, Cortez etc are this breed of open socialists trying to package the sun and stars from the government. This will feed a cycle of tax increase. And one day when businesses start shrinking and countryās balance sheets start hurting, all of this socialism will lead to revolutions (not always good).
I agree with you . Far left fanaticism should stop
A complete misread of recent European history. What do you think is contributing to these protests: https://www.france24.com/en/20180127-france-emmanuel-macron-business-friendly-pay-off
Another dumb post about Franceās situation. You have no clue about Europe and race/class relations in Europe. Go travel and read a bit ! š
Not sure if you are implying you are from Europe. If you are, i have only one question - do you like your exorbitant taxes when economic growth by itself is so mediocre? How long before all those social benefits empty the coffers? How much more can you keep taxing citizens when the nation is losing its business edge. These fundamentals expose all kinds of class/race fractures you are talking about. The socialism party lasts only until the economic fundamentals itself are strong. Sorry but your Europe will have more of this class/race/and every other fracture exposed due to the lost economic competence.
You act like American benefits like Social Security are stable. You do realize that American benefits are heading for a cliff right ?
Nothing wrong Trump. Best president since Reagan.
Yeah, right. Congratulations for having the best president in the world š
The protesters are widely inconsistent but the common demands are: - departure of Macron for being too favorable to wealthy entrepreneurs; - more public services in rural areas; - taxes on Faang, McDonalds and other large/American companies; - stop the support for electric cars research project; - stop the European free market. They vandalised luxury shops, for Godās sake. How did you read that as an endorsement to Free market economics is beyond me.
I never said the protesters were demanding free market economy. The protesters are just a bunch of disgruntled people who will point at anything to blame their hapless state right now. Thatās why the incoherence in their demands. They are a symptom of a larger problem. I was merely pointing out that their hapless state is because France has overburdened their citizens with taxes when their economic prospects itself arenāt growing fundamentally. The wage workers wonāt have any new jobs because businesses are fleeing Europe. So any further increase in tax burden after a certain point will only lead to revolts. Those guys need more money in their pockets. Money in the pocket comes after reasonable taxes on wages. Wages come from jobs. Jobs come mostly through private businesses. Businesses need a certain environment to thrive in. Europe is failing here. They have become too difficult to run businesses in. End symptoms will be citizens with poor monetary prospects and unhappy lives.
@NetApp, are you able to model your last paragraph? With your models, you can include your argument.
Hollande was the socialist..really he was leader of the official socialist party. Macron is more neoliberal like the clintons....so riots in france are repudiation of neoliberalism... Also trump is not a true republican. Oligarchs donate and control both parties.
Lol and hollande was barely socialist. One only has to look at parties like the SDP or the Portuguese one to see that continental European parties with "socialism" in the name are socialist in name only.
Portugese are communists now
lol. op knows nothing about france and politics in europe. post is shit
As one right wing reporter put it best, OP should just shut up and code
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Typical liberal winner response. MAGA there is far more of us than you can dream of.
There are bigger issues to worry about than the patriarchy and other buzz words you like to call out. Read my response in one of the comments underneath to what problem I am referring to. Financial discipline and economic competitiveness is not the same as supporting the buzz words you have thrown around. Think a bit deeper than what media shows you and use your intelligence. But then again you work for Cisco, underbelly of Silicon Valley.