DiversityFeb 27, 2018
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PayPal KJcl28 Feb 27, 2018

True I won't even try

Adobe grumpy1 Feb 27, 2018

I’ve lived in the midwest, south, and bay area... and you can run into bigotry anywhere. I’ve seen more in the bay area than in the midwest, just different types. So yes, we can cherry pick, find one bad example, and extrapolate that into a systemic problem if we want. But that only shows our own bigotry. (In the South and Midwest, I’d see examples like that a couple times a year. In the bay area, I hear bigoted comments towards smokers, people in the south, conservatives, against white privilege (also bigotry) or the religious, about 5 times a week. And cracks against blacks, asians or latinos, about as common as in the South/Midwest.)

Facebook cynical.ly Feb 27, 2018

The point is not that one or two parents abused the doctor. The concern is that the institution conspired to punish the doctor by siding with the abusers. That is a systemic problem. If you didn't get that, try looking at the issue again. If you got that, but we're trying whataboutery, there is nothing anyone can do to change your mind.

Yahoo anonhoo Feb 27, 2018

Your anecdotal evidence is very scientific and valuable thanks

Gap randUser Feb 27, 2018

Misguided take. Midwest cities and southern cities are incredibly liberal. It's the rural areas are conservative.

Microsoft fkMS48 Feb 27, 2018

I know folks will find this shocking but there are a ton of tech jobs creating innovative stuff that have nothing to do with the bay area and Seattle

Yahoo anonhoo Feb 27, 2018

Bay Area is the only place on earth please see yourself out

Google gsu Feb 27, 2018

I wouldn't move to a place like this for twice my TC.

Periscope Data gsuH80 Feb 27, 2018

Great lesson in not using social media if you are any kind of professional of consequence.

Google gsu Feb 27, 2018

Yeah. "you shouldn't dress like this if you didn't want to be raped."

Periscope Data gsuH80 Feb 27, 2018

Hahaha, sounds like a Google.

Credit Karma Johmy Feb 27, 2018

Thanks for sharing the article. It’s really messed up, but I’m glad the doctor stood up for himself and published this. but it’s not solely a southern or midwestern problem. California has a vast number of hate groups, a legally-sanctioned racially segregated prison population and vigilantes who physically attack trans people, homeless, and immigrants. The combination of liberal politicians here who sometimes speak compassionately gives the appearance of tolerance, but who legislate more or less along the lines of Republicans elsewhere creates a dynamic where fascism can potentially thrive. If middle class professionals here don’t use slurs or beat homeless people... well that’s because our taxes pay cops to do it by proxy so it’s not needed to “make people know their place”. Racism is a structural problem across the US, not a regional or cultural issue of personal tolerance.

Adobe grumpy1 Feb 27, 2018

Other than intersectional propaganda, do you have any evidence of structural racism being nation wide? Granted, I’m in tech. And on the small scale, I’ve seen some racism (like Indian, Black, Asian managers, seeming to hire a lot of people like them). Ironically, I’ve never seen that with white managers (where most teams were quite diverse). And in larger organizations, I just haven’t seen a huge overweighting. I mean yes, a lot of Indians in the bay area (relative to the national population) — but I’m not sure hiring is out of whack with applicants in area. And while I’m sure there are asshats and bigots all over (here and there). “Structural” seems to imply system wide, and prevalent... and they’re far far more the exception than the rule, as far as I’ve seen.

Credit Karma Johmy Feb 28, 2018

What’s systemic racism? Well it isn’t a collection of bigots or rate of bigotry, it’s how racism structurally replicates itself. As I said, California has a large and legally racially segregated prison system where collective racial punishment is sop. The entire housing structure of the modern Bay Area was created in the post war era and built on redlining. Why was west Oakland black? Because this was where the rail and shipping stink (and water purification today) settles and the main place real-estate companies (urged by government recommendations) allowed black people to live. Then when the freeway and BART were built, the land became valuable and the main strip of black business was removed. California’s economy was largely due to agriculture and growers have used vigilantism and paid thugs to keep the itinerant farm workers, Filipino, Mexican, Central American, oaklahoman etc “in line”. Nation-wide, the war on drugs has disproportionately targeted and locked up poor people - significantly black poor people - despite drug rates being equal across class and racial categories. Almost half of drug arrests are for simple possession and black folks are 3-4x as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession. Since Rodney King, high courts have fairly consistently set precedents and made court decisions that set the bar higher to prove systemic racism - a police officer could spend all day targeting only black people for searches and as long as a plausible pretext exists he can continue to do so unless he says, “I’m arresting you because you’re black/poor/Latino...” etc. it’s a self-reinforcing system where the feds reward local dept.s for drug bust rates and then the courts make it easier for police to go after “easy targets” I.e. poor people who would be unlikely to have legal resources and people who might, due to general social snobbery or bigotry think were less worth trusting by judges or juries... maybe like a group who get blamed for their own poverty and told that their inferior cultural values make them less trust-worthy... dodwhistle “thugs” or “welfare-queens”. Which brings us back to the base issue of economics. For the past 40 years both parties - in different language and methods - blamed black poverty on black people. But the reality is that black people began getting a foothold in industry in the middle of the century and moved from the south to cities. But in the 70s industry profits fell and manufacturing moved or rebuilt facilities in cheaper suburban areas with increased automation. This left the industrial cities without a tax revenue basis at the same time that black people in cities lost sources of stable jobs. Cities cut back on services and black people who moved to the suburbs where the new jobs were faced bigotry and suspicion. None of this is an intentional plot, it’s a development based on many factors. But this dynamic has sustained racism despite some reforms in the civil rights era.