Thoughts on Apple vs Amazon

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May 3 16 Comments

I am a new grad from top 30 cs schools in US. I currently have 2 offers from Amazon AWS and Apple. Would love to hear your insights.

Apple-
Role: Devops
Tech: Python, Ruby, bash, CI CD pipelines mainly jenkins
Pay: 140/110/20 - base/stockworth/joining in thousands
Location: Cupertino

Amazon AWS
Role: SDE 1, team specific AWS security team.
Tech: Java, Linux, basic networking and security
Pay: 120/85/50
Location: virginia

Role wise I like Amazon as it is a dev role. Giving up roughly 20 k per year (effectively it would be 10k due to location and additional tax expenses) and letting Apple go away do I miss something ? no idea about work life balance and some other things.

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  • NetBrain Technologies freight
    I'd suggest you to pick according to the work you would prefer to do.
    In terms of money both offers are quite similar when taking location into consideration.
    May 3 2
    • IBM
      skatta

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      skattamore
      OP
      Yeah, I personally feel Apple was using old tech stack. Not sure though. Thought Aws security was cool thing. Can’t say untill we work there.
      May 3
    • NetBrain Technologies freight
      Personally I dont quite enjoy devops,
      And being an SDE you write more code and build more stuff. That's what I think
      May 3
  • Apple 🦄㊙️
    Apple and Amazon are very, very different in terms of engineering process.
    Amazon is like a factory, everyone uses the same tech stack. One week bootcamp and you can start contributing to code repo. You get to do first prod deployment in your first month. Oncall is very stressful though.
    Apple is bunch of isolated groups in the company. Each team uses different tools. No csntral wiki, no one repo for all code. When you bump into problem, no place to ask for help other than your direct teammates. Very secretive. Sometimes I feel I am working some fucking national security matter projects.
    For your first FAANG, go to Amazon, the stuff you learn is going to be very useful everywhere.
    May 3 1
    • IBM
      skatta

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      OP
      Great thoughts 💭 . Highly appreciate your sharing 🤗
      May 3
  • New / Eng zzzzzz-ZZ
    Its choice between starting out career as devops vs SDE. Surely you can transition later. SDE to Devops pivot is better and easier in my opinion
    May 3 2
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      skatta

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      OP
      Thanks for the thoughts, it makes sense
      May 3
    • F5 Networks RRA
      Agreed; better to start as SWE.
      May 3
  • Amazon mUwn3e
    AWS wlb is hell but yeah you'll be a genius if you hang on
    May 3 0
  • Tableau / Eng TacW56
    The role at Apple sounds incredibly dull. As much as I hate to say “choose Amazon”, in this case (if it were me) it’d be a no-brainer — in real-terms the Amazon salary will go a LOT further, and you’ll learn a lot that will put you in a great position to start your career.
    May 4 0
  • Amazon aXQP44
    Apple tech profile isn’t compelling. Plus that money in bay area wont get you more than 1-bedroom apartment.
    May 3 0
  • Amazon bnhujb
    Aws will help you compare apples to pears
    May 3 1
    • New / Eng zzzzzz-ZZ
      Please elaborate. Didn't understand
      May 3
  • Apple tyrion🎲
    I would say depends on location you want to be in
    May 3 1
    • IBM
      skatta

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      OP
      I am okay with location.
      May 3
  • Apple / Eng
    iHateFruit

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    Amazon no brainer for a dev role
    May 10 0

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