Thoughts on being a manager

Apple py1
Apr 13 47 Comments

Edit: getting a lot of flak for length of post in the comments, so here’s the tldr:

I enjoy my job as a data professional. There are things I like about being a manager, but I am getting those opportunities without having to be a manager. I don’t want to be doing verbal gymnastics all day. 

Edit: redacted original posting - I may after all be writing a book :D

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  • Facebook Probe
    No one's reading this shit, give us a tl;dr.
    Apr 13 8
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      Didn’t even want to scroll past it all. Let alone read it
      Apr 13
    • It’s fine to write therapeutically. Open up a notes application on your phone. No need to post here.
      Apr 13
    • Apple py1
      OP
      @Intuit, Yep, I agree. Now I know what happens when you post “therapeutic writing” on an anonymous forum. It’s interesting to see people being rude really - obviously I’ve seen rude comments on such forums but this is is the first wave at me!
      Apr 13
    • Facebook Probe
      You're probably the sort of person who plays music on their boombox while hiking on a trail (for therapeutic reasons) and wonder why people would get upset at such a thing when they could just choose not to listen to your music and maintain a distance.
      Apr 13
    • Apple py1
      OP
      @Facebook, I don’t think the comparison holds water, let’s agree to disagree.

      Also, I gave a tldr as you suggested. There was a bit much negativity in the comments, best to avoid.
      Apr 13
  • Salesforce beltalowda
    TIL Blind’s character limit is pretty large.
    Apr 13 3
    • Apple py1
      OP
      Lol. Oh what a bummer, it sounds like no one wants to read it. Clearly, I should have edited before posting :)
      Apr 13
    • Salesforce beltalowda
      Yeah sorry about that. It’s just a little too long.
      Apr 13
    • Apple py1
      OP
      Please don’t be sorry, you conveyed your feedback with more kindness than some of the others.
      Apr 13
  • Google KissMyPiss
    OP mistyped Blogspot it seems
    Apr 13 1
    • Apple py1
      OP
      Ouch! :)
      Apr 13
  • Apple sisiIosla
    Honestly, how long did it take you to finish the post?
    Apr 13 3
    • Apple py1
      OP
      I spent about an hour this morning. I used to write in school and college, won prizes too. But over the last decade I’ve written mostly dry emails at work.
      Apr 13
    • Apple sisiIosla
      Wow. Screw all this of being manager etc. looks like your true passion is writing ✍️ focus on that. Publish a book. Follow your passion
      Apr 13
    • Apple py1
      OP
      Thank you for the kind words but this may be too raw to be called ‘writing’ :) I didn’t take even a second to edit it. Apologies if that was disrespectful for the audience. Just shared it here on a lark.
      Apr 13
  • Intel / Eng mr_pleb
    I like the post. I think it's honest and cute. I wish more people shared their outlook, decisions, reasoning about their career rather than TC.

    I can relate to some degree. I never was a manager but started taking leadership roles in projects as I grew and I thought I was heading somewhere. But somewhere along the way I got derailed by circumstances, I believe. Now I feel I'm paying dearly for not willing to compromise on my passion. At some point I refused taking a role which would have put me in a manager's shoes. The work didn't seem as interesting as what I was doing. Now I'm looking to report to the one that got the role I refused or to report to an incompetent who's job I could have done better.

    Right now I'm not convinced it's worth staying an engineer if you can be something else. At least not at Intel which is known to be a toxic wasteland. I still hope there are companies where real engineering skills and discipline that deliver are valued over empty words, promises and colorful slides that don't deliver.
    Apr 14 1
    • Apple py1
      OP
      Thank you for the kind note. I am sorry to hear about your experience. Godspeed.
      Apr 14
  • Amazon Deaf Bezos
    Lorum ipsum
    Apr 13 2
    • Apple py1
      OP
      Lol, I suppose you mean this reads gibberish. That is fair feedback. Thank you for sharing and I mean it!
      Apr 13
    • Amazon Deaf Bezos
      Actually thanks for putting it out. Appreciate it man.
      Apr 14
  • Amazon u do u
    I think its really hard to go up the ladder without being in the management position. Just reading your post, being a professor at a university might have suited you better?
    Apr 13 3
    • Apple py1
      OP
      Thanks for the thought. I’ve been in academia and found the pace of things too slow. A lot of bureaucracy.

      This may sound odd but I’m not very keen about moving up the ladder. I need to enjoy what I do, the role needs to be fulfilling and have some impact. I don’t have a desire to make loads of money, as long as I’m fairly compensated it is fine.
      Apr 13
    • Amazon u do u
      I salute you for having such mindset. On the opposite im quite ambitious so I want to climb the ladder and go for higher management positions later.

      Anecdotally speaking, becoming L7+ (principal and higher) at least at amazon as an engineer is extremely challenging as there are lots and lots of brilliant AND creative folks.

      Also keep in mind that even as an IC, you will need to sharpen the people skills because at the end of the day, its the feedback of others that get your work recognized. Good luck on your career and hopefully you dont lose sight of this!
      Apr 13
    • Apple py1
      OP
      Thanks @Amazon. I totally agree about the people skills bit.
      Apr 13
  • Two Sigma xkcdfun
    What happened to the April Fools part?
    Apr 13 2
    • Apple py1
      OP
      Wow you noticed it! I thought it might dox me, so removed it.
      Apr 13
    • Two Sigma xkcdfun
      I think I might use that one on April’s Fools :)
      How long have you been a manager and how long at the same place?
      Apr 13
  • It's like an Indian William Faulkner, if William Faulkner couldn't write.
    Apr 13 1
    • Apple py1
      OP
      Ouch
      Apr 13
  • eBay t h i c c
    I am a manager and it’s dooooope bro. I get to tell people what to do and then take the credit 😎
    Apr 13 0
  • Amazon leetN00b
    I read about a paragraph or two up to getting advise between a contract and a permanent job :)

    That round 1 and round 2 layoffs is such negative and incorrect advise. I the response to that was good about not worrying about getting laid off. Except there are more differences.
    A few replies here about not reading. After the tldr, and that paragraph, that is my limit.
    Apr 13 0
  • Amazon / Product
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    I read the entire post. I could sense more of your passion for data analytics than much about your whims about being a manager. Also, a portion of your post is duplicative. I’d hire you as a BA if you demonstrated this passion in an interview :)
    Apr 13 0
  • Flagged by the community.

  • Tableau fragmented
    Don't - anonymity emboldens people. I found the tangents made me smile.
    Apr 13 0
  • Amazon TTTPPMM
    Too long to read
    Apr 13 1
    • Apple py1
      OP
      Sorry. I didn’t have the time or energy to edit. I do state a warning that it is long right at the beginning.
      Apr 13
  • Tableau fragmented
    I also find writing can be cathartic. Re: the point about managerial titles being respected/expected - it varies. I wouldn't say I grew up thinking one must be a manager to be more successful on their career path. Family cared I went to college and got a job - that's it.
    Apr 13 1
    • Apple py1
      OP
      Thank you for the thoughts. I was just going to pull this post down :)
      Apr 13
  • Microsoft /More/$$$$
    How long did you take to type all this shit?
    Apr 13 2
    • Apple py1
      OP
      Shit?
      Apr 13
    • Microsoft /More/$$$$
      Sorry, I did not read anything. Please ignore shitty comments from people like me.
      Apr 13
  • Apple BigBootey
    You lost all my sympathy when you admitted to singing “Jolene”
    Apr 13 1
    • Apple py1
      OP
      I heart “Jolene”! I could listen to it a hundred times :)
      Apr 13