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If you have problems with discussing tiers, then GTFO of this post. These rankings are based off the data points from other tier blind posts, If you think these rankings are off, then please comment with your own rankings.
Tier = Pay, prestige, wlb, culture, benefits, talent pool, brand weight on resume, people have starry eyes when you tell them where you work at
Tier 0: Be your own boss
Tier 1: FNG
Tier 2: Apple, Uber, Airbnb, Lyft, Linkedin
Tier 3: Amazon, Microsoft, Stripe, Pinterest, Slack, Snap, Dropbox, Robinhood, Palantir, square
Tier 4: Salesforce, Twitter, nvidia, Opendoor, Box, Bloomberg, Walmart Labs
Tier 5: Zillow, Yelp, Oracle, Quora, Tableau, Reddit, Houzz, purestorage, Expedia
Tier 💩: Cisco, Autodesk, IBM, HP, VMWare, Intel
- There is far too much focus on tiers at Blind.
Which is better? Sweeping the floors at FNG or leading engineering at a place that doesn’t even make your tier list today, but could be on the top of the pack in 10 years?
Let me remind you that Cisco, HP, Intel were all “Tier 0” at one point in time.
- This is stupid. People that rely on tiers like this are kind of pathetic to me. One person's 'Tier 1' is another person's 'Tier 25'.
- Everything is questionable here but SNAP being Tier 3? Fuck that. Tier 42.
- Apples refreshers are entirely org dependent. They can be big but there's no guarantee. Even if they were good, they start you off at a really uncompetitive comp with perks and benefits worse than other companies (no free food, 401k is meh, etc.) By the time you've stayed long enough to really reap the benefits of the refreshers, you could have just jumped to another company for higher comp.
I know someone who started off at at apple 4 years ago and he got at least 100k refreshers every year. His tc is around 300k with 4 yoe. Reaching 300k at fb/gg/li in 4 years isn't that hard and you get free food and way better benefits. So in the best case at apple where you're getting good refreshers you're still better off at other higher tier companies. Wlb can also suck.
- Dropbox has strong talents and a high hiring bar. They pay around the same as tier 1s. However their business is questionable. In 2014, their share price was valued at around 19. Today, FIVE YEARS later, they're at 22. That's like a 15% growth in 5 years which is just absolutely pathetic given that fang easily doubled, with a couple of them multiplying way more. And as a startup, it should be way easier to grow than a large tech company.
- Bloomberg / OtherGOALSlayerYou keep posting this same ranking post over and over - you need to be comforted on an anonymous app full of virgins?
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- Pure storage? Wtf. If it’s a company people haven’t heard of, it should be shit tier.
- Where’s the WeWork love at? We got beer on tap, chairs that don’t look like chairs, and we’re the most overvalued company. But is WeWork a real estate or a tech company? The answer is yes.
Tier 3 pls.
- So let me try to get this. Tableau is full of people who left msft because of the mediocre talent and terrible pay. And we are Tier 5 and msft is tier 3?
- Of course, but that was not the case from what I hear. Everyone has their horror stories about the shit they've seen at msft.
Having one bar for the whole msft doesn't make sense, there's some good places and other terrible things with the worst quality you've seen in your life. Heck even levels don't mean shit at msft, a Senior in bing is an sde2 anywhere else in the company
- Damn no love for Tinder (pun not intended 😂).
As a biased employee I'd put us tier 3, we dominate our market and most of our eng is former Yahoo, Google, Twitter, Pinterest. TC is also insane if you joined 2016 or earlier.
- Perficient / EngLoveToCodeWhat about Oracle OCI, Intuit, Adobe, Drive.ai, Spotify?
These are not even Tier 5?
- Drive.ai seems like just another overfunded messed up startup to me. I interviewed for a top level role there. Not a single impressive exec in the mix. Honestly, no idea how they could even hire as much as they have or get consideration in a "tier" beyond yet-another-self-driving-startup. Andrew Ng's wife is out so other than whatever stock they have, he is just a name they use for fundraising/recruiting.