To those who moved from Amazon to non-FANGs

Amazon brazil101
Jul 11 23 Comments

Ex-Amazonians who moved out of Amazon to non-FANGs, do you miss Brazil, Pipelines, Apollo, and other tools in your new workplace?
To be honest I miss them, didn’t think much about their convenience while I was at Amzn.
If not, do you think tools at your new work are better?

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  • Facebook xfnhero
    The A in fang is for apple. Amazon is shit
    Jul 11 1
    • Amazon brazil101
      OP
      Why so? Did you work at Amazon before? In comparison to FB and G probably. For the rest, not sure.
      Jul 11
  • Salesforce torbmain
    Can you share what these tools do that make them hard to replace?
    Jul 11 1
  • Expedia / Mgmt
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    In Kindle, we used Jenkins and our own pipeline tools: Brazil et al was irrelevant to our Android and iOS shop. I'm currently building some pretty sweet cloud app and infrastructure management tools over at Expedia. Since I never had the benefit of using that toolset, hard to compare.
    Jul 11 1
    • Amazon brazil101
      OP
      Wasn’t it a downgrade to go to Expedia from Amazon? How it feels?
      Jul 11
  • Facebook TEOo86
    Apollo / Brazil / pipelines is such a pain to setup... I couldn’t even get flask running properly on the stupid infrastructure
    Jul 11 6
    • Amazon hydfb
      What does Facebook use for their build tools? Open source?
      Jul 12
    • Facebook / Mgmt vjuiu
      Yes, we open sourced it. Check out buck.
      Jul 12
    • Facebook AnimeWaifu
      AWS + open source is easier to setup than Apollo / pipelines @brazil101
      Jul 12
    • Apple f18eh67
      Getting it all set up correctly was a pain however once it’s set up it works incredibly well for CI/CD. I didn’t realize how good CRUX/gitfarm was until I had to go back to using github again. The builder tools at Amazon are integrated together very well, despite all their faults, for getting all of the ops burden out of the way of the SDLC.
      Jul 12
    • Amazon brazil101
      OP
      @AnimeWaifu I agree on AWS and some open source. But some companies still use manual deployments and Jenkins.
      Jul 12
  • Credit Karma NicoleUK
    Can someone tell us what is Brazil tool and why it is awesome?
    Jul 11 3
    • Amazon CeoExtra
      It’s like Maven
      Jul 11
    • Amazon / Eng TkRY72
      It does more than maven including tie into git and do some decent workspace setup. I still prefer other tools. It's hard to give a specific parallel to Brazil, apollo, and pipelines as the lines are blurred due to their homegrown nature. They work really well together if you use them as prescribed. Unfortunately, any deviation from "The Amazon Way" is strongly discouraged by difficulty in getting them working with the aforementioned tools.
      Jul 11
    • Amazon CeoExtra
      Of course it’s more than Maven. But to explain to someone external that’s what comes to my mind because it’s the core feature. In fact it’s wraps ant. The git and other things are not the flagship features. You can directly use git for that. Maven also helps with workspace setup in some sense.
      Jul 12
  • LinkedIn HarambeL7C
    nope
    Jul 11 0
  • Amazon CeoExtra
    Where are you going?
    Jul 11 0
  • Amazon
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    kccmore
    I am moving to a startup. Will update in a few weeks
    Jul 11 0
  • Apple f18eh67
    Yes I miss them all. I also miss wiki and TT. Not so much sim though.
    Jul 11 0
  • Indeed Scrub 🧽
    YES. You don't even understand.
    Jul 11 0
  • Amazon hydfb
    I'm still at Amazon and switched to native aws on all my work around a year ago and I don't miss Apollo. At all. Pipelines is decent and Brazil is hard af to replace in the Amazon Eco system but I don't think I'd miss it if it were gone
    Jul 11 0