Tough decision - FB

T-Mobile NA_123
Jul 15 46 Comments

I am currently working in a good position (as a planner, non swe) with good flexibility and wlb in Seattle. Also have a good standing in my organization.

I recently got a call from Facebook to interview and cleared it. After a couple of back n forth on compensation, I am Ok with what they offered. Base comp. 30% more than current and FB level equity and sign on.

However, position is out of Menlo Park or Denver whichever I choose. I would leave my good job in Seattle, wife will have to hunt for a job in a competitive market. CA being CA and crazy expensive will eat away from salary gain, will probably have to keep the Denver option open. Start from scratch on a new job. My wife is also expecting which makes this a life changing and tough decision and want to make sure I take the right step.

Simple Question- Is Facebook worth it to make this move ?? Do share ur experiences. Looking for some feedback.

Edit: we are expecting twins so I am shitting my pants on this decision. Wife wants to go for it. My wife is in IT. FB is flexible on joining because of pregnancy. On a visa.

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TOP 46 Comments
  • Google anshumar
    Big NO.
    Justification:
    1) FB WLB is really bad. Discussed on several occasions here.
    2) FB fires really fast.
    Unless you are pretty good at what you are doing, you are risking too much. You’ll be moving to MPK or DEN, then what if things go south? You’ll be stuck in a different city. There is no jobs at Denver.

    At Seattle, you could always go back to your old job. Relocation to a different city makes things really complicated.
    Jul 15 14
    • Google / Eng jf8s3b
      There are a million jobs around MPK
      Jul 15
    • Facebook public2
      Oscar if you are gonna a troll at least make it relevant or funny? OP doesn't have to leetcode. OP could also lose current job for a variety of reasons.
      Jul 15
    • Oscar 🐨koala
      Public2 I am not trolling. You just proved my point. Why move to a nee job with so much more uncertainty? Also, yes, ton of people leetcoded in. You ain’t tech didn’t you say? So perhaps you didn’t have to leetcode, that doesn’t mean some of us don’t.
      Jul 15
    • Facebook public2
      OP isn't tech so won't need to leetcode. No risk no reward, the point again is changing jobs is low risk high reward.
      Jul 15
    • Boeing / Mgmt Yin🌓Yang
      Do compare childcare cost in both cities. It could make 30% raise, very small.
      Jul 16
  • Salesforce torbmain
    Sounds like a big nope to me. Especially if this is your first kid and you aren’t sure what to expect.
    Jul 15 0
  • Facebook public2
    Of course, gets you out of seattle. Career and quality of life will skyrocket. Wife will have no problem finding a job; everyone and their mother is hiring. Benefits are amazing for family and you can use parental leave time to get settled. Congrats on the twins and offer!
    Jul 15 2
    • Amazon / Eng pawUI
      Why will everything skyrocket out of Seattle?
      Jul 19
    • Facebook public2
      How would it not? More opportunities, more culture, more fun, and serious cannot stress how much impact sun can have on quality of life and generally happiness.
      Jul 19
  • Qualcomm JmFx26
    I just had a baby and I can tell your priorities will change drastically once you have the baby. Difficult to realize it till you actually go through the process. Also moving to Bay Area will bump up your cost and lower quality of life quite a bit. The only thing better here is climate if you want to get away from 7 months of rain. FB sounds like good opportunity but it’s a difficult place to work. Good pay but high pressure and constant fear of not getting desired ratings. TMO is doing good and with merger you will have lots of opportunities to grow. Particularly if you are well placed and connected in the org.
    Jul 17 0
  • Tableau BlAk00
    I joined FB a little while ago and did a similar but far less fraught calculation. I wasn’t totally sure (and am still not) it was the right move for me, It’s your risk tolerance and the number of unknowns. There are way too many in your case IMO. Of course, by the same token anything can be recovered from and sometimes it’s okay to take some risk. If I were you, though, I would not take it.
    Jul 15 0
  • LinkedIn tbt
    No
    Jul 15 0
  • Same tc in Denver for fb?
    Jul 15 9
    • T-Mobile NA_123
      OP
      Yes but Denver will not have that many opportunities for my wife.
      Jul 15
    • Uber
      ElptJuice

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      ElptJuicemore
      How about letting your wife hunting for jobs at Denver for a while then make the decision?
      Jul 15
    • T-Mobile NA_123
      OP
      They won' t be waiting till that time. Might take months.
      Jul 15
    • Uber
      ElptJuice

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      ElptJuicemore
      Wait for several months, take the job and stay in Seattle for a while, I think that would leave a plenty of room for your wife to land her job in Denver.
      Jul 15
    • Groupon nfof26
      What was TC in Denver?
      Aug 9
  • Nutanix 1adja134
    Congratulations on the twins!!
    Jul 16 0
  • Amazon / Mgmt Krwn73
    FWIW Denver is an awesome city and the home prices are still affordable so you can actually buy something there and still have $$ for your twins. There is a start up scene there too.
    I think there’s a lot of fear based responses here. If this is the job you want you can do it! I’m a working mom in tech so not just saying random stuff. Don’t worry it’s going to be hard no matter what you choose, you’re having babies!
    Jul 15 0
  • Prudential / Strategy sm11
    This is simple — NO
    Jul 15 0
  • Microsoft / Eng und6b1hf
    Strong NO. Stay where you are. Better off.
    Jul 15 0
  • If you are in visa .. it could be risky.. if not .. how easy will it be for your wife to get a job? Has she tried submitting resumes ? Also if she is expecting.. the new employer may not giver her maternity leave .. if Facebook offer can wait for few months (till your wife has maternity leave) it will be good. You also need to be there more if this is your first child .. so many things to consider before you accept this offer I feel. Tough spot .
    Jul 15 3
    • T-Mobile NA_123
      OP
      Just edited my post to anwser ur question
      Jul 15
    • My son was 1 year old and when I lost my job when he was 8 months. You will be literally and figuratively shitting in your pants to be honest if things go south. Also visa and kids is both worth the uncertainty you will be putting yourself in to be honest . So I say tell Facebook you can join in 6 months and go from there if after six months you still want to do it. Don’t say No .. take time is my best thought. Good luck and congratulations. Kids are lot of work but it is worth it :)
      Jul 15
    • T-Mobile NA_123
      OP
      Thank you for replying. Dont think they will wait for 6 months to give them an answer. They are flexible on joining means I can work from seattle for a few months but eventually will have to move
      Jul 15
  • Google / Supply/Log Google05
    Having a child is a life changing event (especially twins), sounds like you’re running at steady state, if I were you I would leverage that and give the family the focus it needs at this stage. If you back off from FB citing this reason and maintain good terms, might be a chance for a similar opportunity there at a more opportune time a year later. Would they let you initially work out if FB in Seattle for the first x months, that might be a middle ground (although not ideal from your perspective if you are trying to build relationships in a new job)
    Jul 15 1
    • T-Mobile NA_123
      OP
      They have allowed me to stay in seattle for 8-12 months, but after that I have to join. Although I will be on paternity leave immediately after 2 months of joining. HR mentioned my performance would go in default for that 6 month term meaning no harm. My concern is same since there is no team in seattle office, building relationships and work will be hard
      Jul 16
  • Capital One dtrixter
    Hey at the end of your life will you regret not going for it? I would go to FB and have the wife start applying for jobs. Once she gets a 200K plus IT job both of you will be set. Just be sure to work your tail off
    Jul 15 1
    • Google yellows
      200k IT job in Denver is pretty unrealistic!
      Jul 15
  • Akamai Technologies Libtard
    No. This is a very bad idea.
    Jul 15 0
  • Dell vegita
    What’s the TC that you have been offered. I also work in non tech and interested in interviewing with them!!
    Jul 15 0

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