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Trade talk won’t end well

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Dec 8, 2018

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  • Microsoft UMbR31
    I'm surprised the Western public is not more mindblown by this news. Did you just arrest the CFO and daughter of a global telecom equipment giant?
    Dec 8, 2018109
    • Amazon DDFBND
      HahaT 你的证据在哪儿?
      Dec 14, 2018
    • Amazon DDFBND
      SANTA I hope people can speak reason here. “Military liberation” nowadays are expensive and useless, and could result irreversible consequences. Look at middle east. With economic growth, the will of getting a better life would lead to democracy and open market. However it also means CCP will be dethroned, which they are trying so hard to prevent from happening. I believe the history has proved us dictatorship and economic growth can’t stay together. It’s either China will be taken back to 40 years ago, or getting its democracy back. Clearly the world is not expecting another Soviet Union
      Dec 14, 2018
    • New / Eng- -
      China is in stone age. Controlling each other is in their DNA. Have you ever worked with FOB Chinese? They have no chance at freedom for a long long time.
      Dec 15, 2018
    • Amazon DDFBND
      Most of us were brainwashed by propagandas from the day we were born. The party is everywhere in your daily life. They have the absolute control over education and public media. If you live there for 20 years there’s little chance you’ll be open to other system than China’s model. I was once also an enthusiastic nationalist, elitist, believing that China is not ready for democracy yet, until I learned the true history, studied US system, and worked with people around the world. However even my friends with similar experience as me, still thinking like nationalists, not to mention FOB Chinese. It’s often these kinds of mindsets make me see no hope for our country.
      Dec 15, 2018
    • Thumbtack HahaT
      DDFBND 汝国拟是钟郭仁纳嚒妮酒时歌汗煎
      Dec 15, 2018
    • Thumbtack HahaT
      DDFBND it’s silly but it’s your turn to prove that you are not a “FAKE Chinese” slandering others country. Or you can hide if you don’t understand what I typed. (Google translate won’t work for ^)
      Dec 15, 2018
    • New
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      @Amazon: this is America: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Ladder_to_Heaven

      And you are standing in that crowd cheering for them to build the ladder and bomb heaven.

      #facts
      Dec 16, 2018
    • Amazon DDFBND
      HahaT 我是中国人但我不是汉奸 我只是把事实和真相说出来
      Dec 16, 2018
    • Amazon DDFBND
      LOL “slandering” that’s what you call it? I’m just talking about facts here. You can disagree and present counter facts. Also call me “betrayer” doesn’t make anything different from what I talked about
      Dec 16, 2018
    • Amazon DDFBND
      jiure Finally someone who knows the stuff. If you look back at history, China got its economic boom not only because Chinese people, but also because the help of Hongkong and Japan. When Deng started the reform, nobody in the world was willing to invest in China, consider its volatile political environment and equal-to-non supply chain. It was HongKong and Japan’s businesses led the investment in mainland China and they were asking very few in return. We never learned that in our history book, and in the history book still talks about how Japanese harassed our country. But the fact is CCP under Mao never ever confronted JP army, and after it took power it killed more Chinese than those died during war. CCP really did nothing neither in defending our country nor developing her.
      Dec 16, 2018
  • Proofpoint / Engfoodtruckj
    She violated rule of law. China must respect international rule of law surrounding trade and security.
    Dec 8, 20185
    • New / EngSANTA 🎅
      International rule of law that is made by a terrorist organization. US is forcing sanctions on Iran for it’s own benefit, bombing countries left and right. Wreaking havoc in the world, supporting Saudi Arabia and Israel.

      And you think China should respect these ridiculous “laws”? 😂😂🎅
      Dec 8, 2018
    • Qualcomm
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      @Santa: you’re a hypocrite. are you living in the US? if so, why do you live in such terrorist nation?
      Dec 8, 2018
    • New / EngSANTA 🎅
      I don’t live in the US. I live in Sweden. Any further assumptions?
      Dec 9, 2018
    • Druva oddflxbtok
      Santa you don’t really know the story of what happened do you?

      She could have sold to Iran. That’s not an issue, the US couldn’t have done anything about that. What she did was lie to US loan agencies about a subsidiary of ZTE, claiming that they were a wholly independent organization of ZTE, when they weren’t. This lie was breaking US law, because it was a lie that was done with a US company.

      We have an extradition treaty with Canada, which means we capture and extradite people they want for breaking their laws, and they do the same for us.

      She shouldn’t have broken US law while working with a US company, then travel to an ally of the US.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Walmart.com BrownPPL
      Trump did all you said. Then what?
      Jan 2
  • Google Zzyxx
    China is realizing that they are not as strong as they think. :)
    Dec 8, 20182
    • New / Eng- -
      They just sent 'let her go, morons' demand. That is pure power move.
      Dec 8, 2018
    • Google Zzyxx
      Ha ha. No one cares about ‘consequences’. Chinese people themselves don’t care about the rules set by their country. What would they do ? Make people not buy American products ? Make people not invest in US/Canada ? Well, guess what they have rules to stop people from moving money out of China (since past 3 years) and look how that worked out. :)
      Dec 8, 2018
  • Research Now / QA
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    If the rule you followed brought you to this ..... of what use was the rule.
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    So far the response of China is very meek. Looks like the MAGA administration caught them blind sighted. This episode has shown that China is a weak country in front of US.

    However Beijing is full of American expatriates if China wanted they can arrest a boat load of American executives.

    Funny thing is that Canada was humiliated recently about that whole NAFTA deal and here they are ... being good and loyal dogs to the MAGA administration.
    Dec 8, 20180
  • Symantec Kubernet
    What will they really do ?
    Dec 8, 20183
    • Proofpoint / Engfoodtruckj
      Cry about it at UN.
      Dec 8, 2018
    • New / Eng- -
      They will detain couple of hundred Canadian citizens for spying in China. I also suspect that has already happened. Canadians do not learn.
      Dec 8, 2018
    • Microsoft / FinanceDunph
      Detain all Boeing employees for selling military equipment to Taiwan?
      Dec 8, 2018
  • Apple I7g5r
    China can arrest Google execs for violating privacy law?
    Dec 8, 20180
  • Flagged by the community.

    • You must have a thing for trannies then
      Dec 8, 2018
    • Amazon OvBd68
      I do. I really do.
      Dec 8, 2018
    • Microsoft
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      Have you been reported for harassment at Amazon? Looks like you may at some point
      Dec 8, 2018
    • Microsoft Luvluv
      Gotta flag this one
      Dec 8, 2018
  • Cisco randynash
    US execs now will forever be scared of being arrested in China for doing business in Taiwan.
    Dec 8, 20180
  • Microsoft Luvluv
    While China is second super power, its power is meager to US. China got out of poverty not long ago and it has years to catch up to have the same standard as any European counties or US. While I understand China does lots of bad things, it is usually worse in countries with poorer economy. It is just the way it works in the current world.

    Even though Chinese government works hard to develop the country, it may take two generations to catch up the standard like US does. If you apply the similar rules to other countries, They would have been accused of violating more. Not trying to defend this case for China. Indian for example has 4x smaller economy. What that means is there would be more of human rights violations and what not in India. China as a country is huge but individuals don’t afford as much as other European or some Asian countries. This shows in a lot of forms and you can see average people are not as polite or educated etc which are the byproducts of years of economic wealth.

    As a result, China as a country may do a lot more horrible things than most of other more developed countries.

    I think China acted stupidly for trade war by trying to look like they can go toe to toe against US. Japan in 1980s was much more powerful yet US was able to subdue its economy to the point it enters into the recession lasting for 25 years. If China doesn’t surrender now, the consequences may be dire. China doesn’t even have as many companies that can sell the products globally as South Korea whose population is less than 4%. It simply doesn’t have the structure to go against this pressure.

    There are some high tech which China is leading such as AI but difference is meaningless and number of things they can do better than anybody is very small. The world can live without China. All products will cost a bit more but what China does is not a unique or difficult things to do. They can be moved to other developing economies such as Vietnam and it has been happening. Xi’s signing to become a ruler indefinitely was a poor showing which triggered the concern for US. China should have acted like they were going to follow the rules set by US and silently improve its power at every aspect. It will also need democracy eventually when people are more mature. With current political system, it will face the limit soon in many areas and won’t be able to do more than what developing countries do until then.
    Dec 8, 20182
    • LinkedIn
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      True. Well said. I’m having hard time to believe Chinese government hasn’t realized this. Maybe they have, time will tell. It will show in the next 90 days.
      Dec 8, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
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      A lot of speculations and the information used to support those arguments are rather farfetched. The current global stage is far more complex and ever-changing than what most people can realize. Almost all information we consume is pre-selected and filtered in one form or another. It's best to be an observer when we are seeing things through a tunnel.
      Dec 15, 2018
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    Trumptard
    Dec 8, 20180
  • Wait, as a corporate Baron xxx Exec she should be above the law, they always get off with a wet-noodle penalty in the USA, what went wrong for her?
    Dec 31, 20181
    • New / Engi i i
      There could be a multiple reasons. Her company did not do enough of needful political donations, for example. Or that corp became a PR target of propaganda machine about Chinese CCP controlled spy tech (the irony is it could be true, very hard to say without access to CIA/NSA evidence). Getting rid of 'spy' label is extremely hard and expensive.
      Jan 1

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