Transitioning to EM

Uber en rn
Jul 13 17 Comments

Have been in tech for 4 years (I am older though, was in finance before), planning to become an EM. How is the AM program at Uber? Is it worth staying just for the program?

I am asking because I also have an offer from FB with a 40% pay increase. Should I join FB and then try becoming an EM there? How hard is to transition at FB? Is it possible to transition to EM with a L4 offer?

Thanks in advance!

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  • Facebook enginer
    Facebook doesn't do L4 EMs, and only some orgs do L5 EMs. If you're good moving up is easy though
    Jul 14 5
    • Uber en rn
      OP
      How does one usually become an EM in that case? After reaching E6?
      Jul 14
    • Facebook enginer
      That's the standard way.
      Jul 14
    • Facebook / Eng
      madhuridix

      Facebook Eng

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      Facebook
      madhuridixmore
      E6 is pretty easy. You just strong technical skills, good people skills and show leadership
      Jul 14
    • Uber en rn
      OP
      E6 is easy LOL
      Jul 16
    • Facebook enginer
      E6 is straight forward to get, but the mass of E5s all struggling to get there wouldn't call it easy
      Jul 16
  • Airbnb / Eng acidicf
    4 YOE seems short to become an EM
    Jul 14 0
  • Uber / Eng ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°
    Sort of tangential, but are there many EM’s at Uber who progressed past AM/EM1? Most More senior managers I’ve seen were outside hires.
    Jul 13 6
    • AM program is relatively recent so I don’t think there would be a lot.

      Also, AM is equivalent to 5A whereas EM II is equivalent to 5B. (Although you could join the aTLM program as a 5B engineer to become a TLM.) And then Senior Manager is 6.
      Jul 13
    • Uber / Eng ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°
      What is a TLM? I’m guessing it’s like Tech Lead + Management responsibilities (HR, hiring, 1-on-1, performance, etc).
      Jul 14
    • Yes exactly. 50% IC, 50% management.
      Jul 14
    • Addepar nAeb35
      What is AM?
      Jul 14
    • Apprentice Manager. Basically new managers are required to do this manager training course. It’s 6 month long and involves getting feedback from the new manager’s direct reports as well.
      Jul 14
  • If your main aim is to become a formal EM, you can perhaps make it in Uber in a year , if you can get quickly into the AM program. Not sure if timelines are realistic, or if you can easily get into the AM
    In FB, from E4, it will take you 3-4 years to reach E6.
    Jul 14 0
  • Amazon CeoExtra
    Get 7-10 years of SWE experience first.
    Jul 14 0
  • The AM program is decent IMO.

    But given the 40% pay increase (which is massive), I think you should talk to your FB recruiter and ask what their management training and process is like. I’m assuming you’d rather get a 40% pay increase now and be willing to wait 1-2 more years before becoming a manager at FB.

    Btw what’s your TC at U?
    Jul 13 0

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