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  • Microsoft ok2Bwhite
    US companies need to move out of China. Moving out of China is a long term investment in our future.
    May 611
    • Microsoft gfba68
      Why? It would seem wiser to push China to reform, as they already have to a large extent. Locking yourself out of a market and talrnt pool that large seems counterproductive.
      May 6
    • Microsoft ok2Bwhite
      China is run by CCP, they will never reform.
      May 6
    • Twitter Oomnj
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      Yeah China is a lost cause at this point tbh - they are only gonna get more authoritarian.

      Why should we try to reform them in the first place? Pull out companies from there, being manufacturing home.

      The cost isn’t that much cheaper in China anymore
      May 6
    • Amazon / Engn0v
      In many cases, Chinese manufacturing is more expensive. But for a lot of tech, no one else has the manufacturing know-how. That will take time to build up in other countries.
      May 6
    • Microsoft gfba68
      they've already reformed dramatically just in the last 15 years
      May 6
    • Microsoft ok2Bwhite
      No they haven’t
      May 6
    • Microsoft gfba68
      Yes they have. You are clueless.
      May 6
    • Microsoft ok2Bwhite
      No they haven’t
      May 6
    • Microsoft gfba68
      You should read a book or two
      May 6
    • Intel Who.Dis
      Where can you manufacture a car battery in America? What facility? I’ll give you a few days to google what you want to see.

      The history of American politics has let China take all of the renewable energy prowess while America obsessed over digging ditches in West Virginia.
      May 7
  • Amazon
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    So many ignorant people. Toyota manufactures most its cars sold in China, in China. The same goes for Mercedes and bmw. It’s time to get a little educated about how the world works American born idiots.
    May 69
    • Salesforce BndTheKnee
      Non-American here. Most Mercedes and BMW are actually manufactured in Germany.
      May 6
    • Twitter Oomnj
      OP
      Yeah no that’s not true at all
      May 6
    • Salesforce BndTheKnee
      Actually it is. Most BMWs are built in Dingolfing, Leipzig, and Regensburg (where I am originally from).
      You can get a tour of the factories here and actually see where the parts are sourced from and manufactured.
      There are other plants in the US, and Mexico, but they account only for a small fraction of BMWs made.
      May 6
    • Microsoft pJcW86
      X3 and up are built in South Carolina, also parts and sub components can be sourced from anywhere in the world http://blog.leithbmw.com/where-are-bmw-models-built/
      May 6
    • Salesforce BndTheKnee
      Right, which accounts for a small subset of the BMW lineup.
      Thanks for providing that link!
      May 6
    • Microsoft pJcW86
      How is their SUV line a "small subset"?
      May 6
    • Salesforce BndTheKnee
      Because it’s only 5 of the 18 models produced, and most of those 5 fall at the lower end of the BMW sales by volume.
      May 6
    • Amazon
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      Dude. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_Brilliance

      “manufactures most its cars sold in China, in China.”

      I guess you will say bmw 5 series and 3 series are just a tiny subset of bmw since 99% of bmws sold are 7 series?
      May 6
    • Salesforce BndTheKnee
      Did you not read your own link?
      Look at the sales numbers and read through the wiki. That’s a joint venture with BMW, and one of their vehicles aren’t even an actual BMW vehicle, but a Chinese-only production by the “Brilliance” venture.
      May 6
  • Expedia ¥₩$
    “Tesla was unable to find a [U.S.] manufacturer with the requisite expertise to produce the Autopilot ECU 3.0 with the required specifications, at the volume requested and under the timelines necessary for Tesla’s continued growth,”

    Do you even read an article completely?
    May 612
    • Square / Engajjsjdjfjc
      Yeah. Maybe you should spend 100k on a model 3. An your CEO should help fix Trump's followers drop.
      May 6
    • Twitter Oomnj
      OP
      Rather that versus having the possibility of my car containing a spy chip from China
      May 6
    • Microsoft pJcW86
      You're that important that China is going to track your daily commute to Twitter?
      May 6
    • Twitter Oomnj
      OP
      Maybe hack all the 1000s of cars on the road like the did in the fast and furious movies
      May 6
    • Amazon bandwagon
      Lol. This was good
      May 6
    • Expedia ¥₩$
      @Oomnj:
      "Maybe Tesla should not expect profits on the cars"
      "Maybe Tesla should not think about cutting edge technology if it doesn't find expertise in US"
      "Maybe Tesla should not think about manufacturing electric cars in the first place"

      Business is not just about creating products it's about creating products with customer centric and profits in mind and deliver the products up ahead of competitors.
      Do you think companies don't do any research before choosing a place to build they're manufacturing unit in a place without any reason?

      Grow up dude.
      May 6
    • Twitter Oomnj
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      “Maybe if tesla gets funds from the US tax payer they shouldn’t use it to invest in China”
      May 6
    • Microsoft gfba68
      Did Tesla sign a contract agreeing not to invest in China? If so, they should definitely be sued.
      May 6
    • Amazon HarambeLC
      trump supporters 🤦
      May 6
    • Intel Who.Dis
      That’s anti-Capitalist.
      May 7
  • Oracle xhRB83
    manufacturing should be repatriated to the USA. no reason at all things cannot be built here. boeing does it (final assembly and a lot of parts). toyota does it. mercedes and bmw do it. no raeson at all to be in china. any dependency on the chicoms is long term bad for business.
    May 610
    • Twitter Oomnj
      OP
      Exactly! It’s a national security risk on top of everything
      May 6
    • It's cheaper to build overseas and as a God-fearing capitalist you have a duty to go with the cheapest production costs while pulling in record profits.

      Why do you hate the United States of Freedom so much?
      May 6
    • Twitter Oomnj
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      One of the more fundamental tenets of a capitalist system is private property, China does not respect IP, so they rules don’t apply
      May 6
    • Uber / EngnYf6sJ
      LOL lots of reasons things can't be made here.
      Americans are too lazy (by China srandard) and demand salary that is too high. Also regulation here, tax there, litigation here, union there...
      Too much hassle.
      May 6
    • Twitter Oomnj
      OP
      Seems like you’re making a case for deregulation and lower taxes that trump has already supported
      May 6
    • Uber / EngnYf6sJ
      Of course he supported because that's what the problem is. He's trying very hard to bring it back. But the gap is too big. You need to see how things work in China how much workers earn there and ask yourself "can we do the same". And you probably say "no"
      May 6
    • Twitter Oomnj
      OP
      We gotta bring manufacturing back with robots taking the bulk of low paying jobs. This way it can also generate higher paying manufacturing supporting and over-seeing jobs.

      The only thing we can’t do is let Biden win who’ll just set up a yard sale for the US
      May 6
    • Uber / EngnYf6sJ
      Manufacture in China is already being partially automated. Automation will happen in China first because the non-automated part is still much cheaper in China. They can do semi-automation.
      While in US it's not viable as long as a tiny bit work is not automated.
      And even when technology finally developed into a stage that fully automated manufacture happens, why would it happen in US instead of China? What's the benefit?
      BTW some leftiests already draft "robot tax", before the tax base is even real. Why would anyone want to bring back their robots? It might be better just paying the tariff than robotax.
      May 6
    • Twitter Oomnj
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      Yeah just never vote for increased taxation - it’s simple obvious.

      I think without a robot tax and with tariffs and embargoes on particular sectors due to national security risks will bring automated manufacturing sector to the US.
      May 6
    • Uber / EngnYf6sJ
      Someone else will vote for more tax for you.
      May 6
  • LinkedIn cd-
    Companies manufactures cars at the location they intend to sell it at. It’s why Toyotas sold in the US are made right here in the US. Ironically, American cars sold in the US are made in Mexico.
    May 62
    • Amazon Izzypop
      So, *some* car manufacturers make cars where they intend to sell them.
      May 6
    • Twitter Oomnj
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      No one should be manufacturing anything in China - especially not cars or computers. It’s essentially a national security risk
      May 6
  • Intel / Eng
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    Is this a spam link.. not opening for me
    May 63
    • Twitter Oomnj
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      Dude it’s tech crunch
      May 6
    • Intel / Eng
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      I know it's tech crunch. Directly clicking the link is not working.. just found this article by googling
      May 6
    • Intel rewt
      Blind browser doesnt work well. You need to use a different browser
      May 6
  • Airbnb @888
    It would be nice if the US still had the necessary manufacturing infrastructure. We’ve let that decay over the last 30-40 years. Over that same time span, China has built up an impressive infrastructure from scratch. It’s now unrivaled, really. If you want a custom chip, you make it in China.

    Democratic presidential candidates, take note. To really make America great again, we must invest in infrastructure and education.

    These things pay dividends over the long term. They’re investments, not expenses.
    May 61
    • Twitter Oomnj
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      Yeah Obama and Biden really accelerated the selling out of American manufacturing and TPP was going to be the final nail in the coffin.

      Trump, at the very least, brought this issue to the forefront of national politics. Hillary has given up on it.
      May 6
  • Tesla ElonB
    Who the heck else will manufacturer pcbs and computers the way China does.
    May 80

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