Trump repeals Obama’s policy on Affirmative Action

Google King Kai
Jul 5, 2018 26 Comments

I have a bit conflicting views one this. On the one hand, affirmative action helps account for some of the systemic disadvantages for Blacks and Latinos. On the other hand, Asians (my race) has been disproportionately repressed in terms of school admissions due to AA.

Not sure what the net effect is for whites though. Thoughts?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/03/us/politics/trump-affirmative-action-race-schools.html

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  • Google / Eng
    rajabell

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    rajabellmore
    How are Latinos systematically disadvantaged?
    Jul 5, 20185
    • Uber Gtfvjyd
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      Jul 5, 2018
    • Uber xchangz
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      Jul 5, 2018
    • Uber uppercut
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      Jul 5, 2018
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      Jul 5, 2018
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      Jul 5, 2018
  • Uber Gtfvjyd
    Nothing was repealed other than guidance. Do you think obama is the reason Harvard evaluates candidates the way they do?

    Also, rich white people who donate money, are legacies, etc., take more spots from Asians than the few black and brown people admitted. Why are all these supposedly smart Asians so easily manipulated by the alt-right's divide and conquer strategies. My beliefs is that it's because the Asian communities harbors a lot inherent racism to begin with. Affirmative Action isn't a government policy you idiot.

    But hey, if it makes you feel better that a few crumbs won't be pushed off the table to black people now, pat yourself on the back. #winning.
    Jul 5, 20183
    • Oracle
      aweeeeeson

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      obama is the reason. liberals keeping mentioning races in every place, on every topic, to me, liberals divide this country. we are americans, not asians, latino, african or white. and all lives matter. that simple
      Jul 5, 2018
    • Qualcomm / Eng
      ChicaBoom

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      Yes all lives matter, except if you're a refugee, asylum seeker, not a fetus, systematically disadvantaged black or Latino.
      Trump has been the most divisive President ever. Conservative nuts like to blame Obama because in their mind no one noticed race before.
      Jul 5, 2018
    • Oracle
      larryeclip

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      and Affirmative action causes systematic disadvantages for Asians, by solving for the systematic disadvantages for blacks / Latinos. Racial preference? why not merit based? btw, a lot of asian families are also refugees, if u remeber vietnam war, . yeah, asians dont have enough votes, liberals dont care.
      Jul 5, 2018
  • Oracle uzqk74
    Affirmative action is a really crude way to compensate for "systemic disadvantages." It tends to help people who are already middle or upper-middle class, and there's quite a bit of evidence that it actually hurts them by pushing them up to a school that is one tier higher than they are really qualified for. The result is that they take easier majors or don't finish.
    Jul 5, 20181
    • Adobe qwerty™
      Do you have solid evidence and non biased stats to back up this statement? This is not a thing.
      Jul 6, 2018
  • Amazon Grhh
    It’s called reservation in India and it sucks big time, unqualified and less skillful people get admitted to top schools for 50-75% score of other admits. While this was good to help uplift people in the past, of late this has been a disaster where well off people have their kids getting these benefits.
    Jul 5, 20185
    • Apple tuolumne
      That sounds like it’s nothing like affirmative action.
      Jul 5, 2018
    • Amazon Grhh
      Please use Google to do some research before posting dumb replies.
      Jul 5, 2018
    • Apple tuolumne
      Please use google to actually understand what affirmative action is and is not before claiming equivalents.
      Jul 5, 2018
    • Amazon Grhh
      It’s not like for like, but similar fundamentally.
      Jul 5, 2018
    • Apple tuolumne
      But this is exactly how misinformed spreads. Saying it similar to this horrible other thing and then conflation spreads and attaches false narratives. I know that isn’t your intention in drawing this comparison.

      There should be zero instances where lesser qualified people are picked over more qualified people with affirmative action. The courts are very strict in how they ordered this policy to be applied.
      Jul 5, 2018
  • Netflix / Engricewater
    It's because Asians are true minority in this country and they don't have the votes to make a difference. Liberals are so pro illegal immigrants. Not because they really love them, they want them to be future votes.
    Jul 6, 20181
    • Google King Kai
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      Hm that last sentence
      Jul 6, 2018
  • Apple tuolumne
    This is affirmative action.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_10925

    It started as an executive order to treat all people applying for employment or already employed equally regardless of race. It evolved to college admission as well as just one additional signal that doesn’t supersede other signals for consideration

    There was/is systemic discrimination against qualified minorities that necessitated something like affirmative action.

    People have a fundamentally incorrect view of what affirmative action is. It’s not lowering the bar for minorities and stiff arming Asians out of the way. It’s to treat all qualified candidates equally.

    With affirmative action all but dying with the appointment of the new justice on the Supreme Court, I wonder how we will prevent these racial bias and discrimination from creeping back in?
    Jul 5, 20182
    • Uber siidtm
      The stated goal of equal treatment regardless of race is great, but the execution does exactly the opposite. If equal treatment is what you are after, why is there a field for “race” on the application form?

      Seems just like communism. Good idea, bad execution. Needs to be scrapped.
      Jul 5, 2018
    • Apple tuolumne
      Simple. Because unequal treatment was applied based on race when it’s not transparent in the selection criteria. The only way to correct this was to make race a transparent metric in the selection process.

      Otherwise how would you know the reason why X% minorities met the bar, but for some reason only x/4% we’re actually admitted?

      Communism isn’t even in the same ballpark.
      Jul 5, 2018
  • New jdkaq7;
    Affirmative action causes systematic disadvantages for Asians, by solving for the systematic disadvantages for blacks / Latinos. Racial preference much?
    Jul 5, 20181
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      larryeclip

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      many asian families are refugees as well, after one or two generations, many of them move out of poverty. did they complained? all they do is working hard. and liberals thinks Asians lives doesnt matter. cause Asians dont protest, asians dont burn cars on street, asians dont rob grocery stores. when in trouble, asians will only accept it and work harder. so why not cause some systematic disadvantages for asians?
      Jul 5, 2018
  • Microsoft WoCE36
    Great
    Jul 5, 20180

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