US Govt cares more about illegal immigrants and sees legal immigrants as a threat. WTF is this logic!!!!

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Following immigration politics and drama. Democrats love illegal immigrants. Republicans love no immigrants. Nobody gives shìt about legal immigrants.

Illegal immigrants: undocumented, illegal border crossing, most with at least one police record, unschooled, low wage labor, depends on government benefits, and possibly homeless.

Legal immigrants: documented, the legal port of entry, clean background check, relatively high wage earner, boost US economy, generate more jobs, well schooled, own their insurance and dues, and rarely anyone is homeless.

US Govt major annual expenses are Social Security > Medicare > Medicaid > interest on US Debt > Military spending > Health & Human Services > Education > Housing & Urban Development > Overseas Contingency Operations and Wars > Natural Disaster Relief for Hurricanes & Wildfires > Saved for future if any left.

I can still understand the national security and defense-related expenses but the illegal-immigrant expense burden is clearly visible as a major expense burden on all the taxpayers. Why not simply deport them and be more strict on the border patrolling? Border trespassing is part of the national security concern.

Why the fcuk US Govt cares more about illegal immigrants and sees legal immigrants as a threat!!!!

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  • Microsoft zzkkmn
    Logic is straight and simple. Hard working legal immigrants will not depend on Democrats and will not vote for Democrats. Left hates you guys. Yes, they make illegals vote.
    Jun 21 9
    • I don't buy it. This should be easy to purge *if* it is true.
      Jun 21
    • Facebook public2
      They cannot, this is just a conspiracy that conservatives love to shout, illegals voting, bussing etc.
      Jun 21
    • It's almost as if they're just trying to find excuses to put innocent people in camps 🤔 🤔 🤔
      Jun 21
    • Target / Eng tmDe33
      Links to credible sources of election fraud or
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      Jun 21
    • Target / Eng tmDe33
      🤣
      Jun 21
  • Riot Games jadukn
    Illegal immigrants are a social and economic concern because they are in the country and we need to find a workable ethical solution to them. Can't simply murder or imprison them as freely while maintaining the image of a shining city on a hill. Legal immigration from non European countries IS a threat, as new immigrants are much harder to suppress and given time they could dilute the political hegemony of the white caste.
    Jun 21 7
    • Yikes
      Jun 21
    • Microsoft hotsteppa
      You mean scared of educated Legal immigrants. The rest are at Home Depot parking lots
      Jun 21
    • Adobe / Eng kkhfwwetg
      I'm sure some people are scared of anyone different but it's not fair to categorize everyone like that. There are people born here, citizens, that the government is supposed to work for. Limiting all kinds of immigration helps incentivise companies to invest in their people and communities since they can't just import new talent when they've bled their current talent dry. It also incentivizes citizens to invest in education because they know if they do, there will be jobs for them. I'm sorry you don't like the situation but the US government needs to serve it's citizens first and the rest of the world second. As does every other government in the world. Some imagration is good, illegal imagration is bad and open boarders is worse for everyone.
      Jun 21
    • Amazon
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      Illegal/ undocumented immigrants are not American citizens (also documented).
      Jun 21
    • Amazon UUVv22
      Jadukn spoke like a true libtard and this is exactly what the democrats stand for. But alas, the foolish legal immigrants asking for merit will continue to support and vote for these hypocrites. Gop May have a fringe that is anti-immigrant but broadly they’ve been the only party willing to give an ear to the legal immigrants unlike the libs who olny hold them as hostage to their wet dream of blanket amnesty to the illegals ( not just the illegals that are in the country but more so for those that are yet to cross the border)
      Jun 21
  • Gusto walala
    Don’t forget that CA is working on providing free healthcare for illegal immigrants at the cost of American citizens and legal residents.

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article231310348.html

    If we are going to further tax or get money from the population, why not use that money to help American citizens and legal residents FIRST?

    I feel that Democrats and extreme left wings in CA is doing this to get more votes and piss of the feds.

    We should start taxing state employees more money...

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Gavin-Newsom-reports-nearly-1-3-million-in-2016-12849486.php
    Jun 21 11
    • Gusto walala
      @Meliodas

      Also, if we don’t have a policy to allow illegal immigrants to live here, then we wouldn’t have to treat more people in emergency room right?
      Jun 21
    • Gusto walala
      Which policy is that? AFAIK, if you go to ER, they cannot turn you away because you don’t have money or not in legal status.
      Jun 21
    • Gusto walala
      @Meliodas can you explain how it reduce cost to the taxpayers? Would love to see your calculations in this.
      Jun 21
    • Gusto walala
      Which legislature specified that offering free healthcare to illegal immigrant by taxing Americans will reduce the cost to taxpayers?

      If I have 100K homeless people to help with $98 million by adding extra tax, I am fine.

      If we have 100k homeless people AND another 100K illegal immigrants and use the $98 million to help the illegal immigrants, hows that reduce tax?
      Jun 21
    • Gusto walala
      @Meliodas haven’t heard your response on my 1st question on ER. Could you answer please?
      Jun 21
  • Google djW7Am
    Illegal immigrants have a huge bloc of sympathetic VOTERS who will elect politicians with illegal-friendly policies. The same can't be said about a few thousand people on H1b earning 4-5x the US median household income.

    Naturally politicians will enact the will of their constituents.

    Democracy's a b*tch ain't it 😃
    Jun 21 2
    • Oracle pzd
      The truth is - Americans need illegals to do the shit jobs nobody wants. They deliver food for $1 tip, they risk their lives in construction projects, they clean the blades at your meat factories, they have sex with you for money, and so on. Because of their illegal status, they can be exploited by pretty much anyone. That's the closest you can get to slavery today.

      Republicans have no beef with legal immegrants, but we don't vote so they don't have an incentive to do anything for us.
      Jun 21
    • Gusto walala
      Then let’s work on making sure this problem is addressed, not by having pretty much an “open border” policy.

      The business are also creating the issue you mentioned, so that need to be fixed too.

      For example, there’s an H-2A Visa for temporary agricultural worker. Perfect for people to come to this country to do agricultural work legally and go back. Problem is, most business don’t want to deal with this because they want to pay illegal immigrant super low wage.
      Jun 21
  • Microsoft TrumpWins
    Here is the scam:

    Democrats in California love inviting illegals into the country because it gives them extra seats in the house when congressional districts are drawn. The illegals are factored into the voting population for the maps. That’s why dems are so angry at the idea we would add the “are you a citizen” question to the census. If the maps were redrawn factoring in illegal non voting areas, they would lose house seats. That’s also why you see people like Eric Holder fighting against republican “gerrymandering”.
    Jun 21 10
    • Gusto walala
      We do ASK question in the survey. Does the constitution specified WHICH question we can ask and which are not?

      Can you point that out for me?
      Jun 21
    • Gusto walala
      @Meliodas if we just go by the constitution completely, then the 2A should apply also, which is the right for us to bear firearm, isn’t it? However, CA put restriction on many firearms. Eg. You can only buy handguns that is in the CA roster.
      Jun 21
    • Gusto walala
      “against the constitution”.

      WHERE does it say it’s against the constitution to ask citizenship?
      Jun 21
    • Gusto walala
      Also in my 2nd constitution, if we follow he constitution the way you see it, why do we have gun roster in CA? Wouldn’t that “against” the 2A?
      Jun 21
    • Gusto walala
      What do you mean by “undercount”?
      Jun 21
  • Amazon TRuc81
    Which of those expenses are an “illegal immigration burden” ?
    Jun 21 4
    • Intel D’s🥜
      Apparently this guy thinks that illegal immigrants collect social security
      Jun 21
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      Google search and you would know. You asking the question "Which of those..." clearly shows you neither follow annual budget nor understands it.
      Jun 21
    • Intel D’s🥜
      So you’re counter is to suggest a half-assed, improper way to source data.

      https://usafacts.org

      Tell me which category. Make your case
      Jun 21
    • Amgen Fin4eng
      Medical expenses, emergency rooms and hospital costs.
      Jun 21
  • Credit Karma BezozJ
    Yes. And people coming legally, abiding law are treated badly.
    California gives license to illegal for 4 years and legal immigrants get driving license only for D/S and renewing it is difficult if visa approval is pending. That doesn't make any sense!
    Jun 21 0
  • Expedia Lark71
    I really have no clue what tge eff is wrong with murika. It goes around tge world defending friends, allies, attacking those counties who do not agree. Yet, it cannot defend its own borders.
    How difficult is it? Zero.
    Damn it, India can build a flood-lighted, electric current, shoot at sight fence on its Bangla border to stop illegals and drugs. And effing murika cannot? Get real.
    And what do citizens do? Sit around, shout on blind facebook etc. Illegals can walj 2000 miles and announce "we are coming" and effing murikan cannot move their a s s few hundred miles and make a human wall with their god given second amend..and announce "dare you set foot on this side".
    Nope, because new murika is too timid, cry baby and coward to defend its own people.
    Jun 21 3
    • Gusto walala
      It’s not cowardice.

      It’s because we have a lot of Democrats and left wing extremist fighting for it, yet they ignore the staggering homeless problem that we have.

      Just look at the sanctuary policy and soon free-healthcare-for illegal immigrants. Who do you think passed these policies?

      And then you have people like @Meliodas defending those policies.

      Those who oppose or question the policy got shutdown, or worse.
      Jun 21
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      ^ it called collusion & mutual cooperation. Playing merry-go-round, no actual progress is ever made!
      Jun 21
    • Gusto walala
      CA is turning to a one-party state. Dems are the overwhelming party here and when you have such thing, they can pass whatever regulations they want unopposed.
      Jun 21
  • Yahoo carlinism
    Yet still you get your GC faster if you arrive illegally on a dingy..
    Jun 21 3
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      Yes. An example from one such law firm - https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/legal-options-undocumented-illegal-immigrant-stay.html and there are more ways around it by different law firms and case by case basis.
      Jun 21
    • Amazon TRuc81
      So if you’ve been here for 10 years and have a relative who is a citizen is basically the only way
      Jun 21
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      That's the simplest of all and as of 2019, it covers anyone illegal in the US as late as 2009. There are many other statuses in which you can get a 10-year extension with the help of an immigration firm. Needs to build a case. Hence, I said there are more ways.
      Jun 21
  • Microsoft / Finance leet600
    Most legal immigrants are chain migrated aunties and grandpas who come here to collect welfare and social security check. This is why Republicans are also against legal immigrants. The solution is to increase merit based immigration while heavily reducing family-based immigration.
    Jun 21 2
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      So according to you trespassers are better candidates than family-based legal immigrants!
      Jun 21
    • Microsoft / Finance leet600
      Not at all, we should deport all the fake asylum seekers.
      Jun 21
  • Facebook public2
    Correct, illegal immigrants need more help and therefore garnish more attention and sympathy from both political parties. Everyone loves dreamers, no one has ever heard of "h1b" unless it was someone who lost a job to one.
    Jun 21 1
    • Oracle pzd
      😂 nailed it
      Jun 21
  • Gusto walala
    @mr.clippy I respectfully disagree that how Dems currently address illegal immigration reflect our values and morales.

    The US foreign aid, as of 2017, totaled $50.1 BILLION. We DO help countries that need help. That reflect our values and morales. No any other country will spend that much money.

    Having said that, we simply CANNOT take EVERY ILLEGAL PERSON that come this country. It’s just not scalable.

    If our values and morals are reflected based on how many illegal immigrants we take in, then I guess other countries have less of those. Eg. Japan, Singapore, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Australia, etc. I mentioned these country because they have strict immigration laws in regards to asylum seekers.

    There’s another thing: if the asylum seekers are really getting persecuted, they could have chosen the closest country to escape. Why does it HAVE to be the US? It doesn’t make sense.
    Jun 21 13
    • Expedia Lark71
      Ch ch ch....Since when a.ericans became so coward...can't defend oown borders. I have started to wish , may all these illegal take over it. May be, mayyyy be then some patriot murikans will wakeup and take matter in their hand.
      Jun 22
    • Netflix mr.clippy
      Be careful what you wish for.
      Jun 22
    • Expedia Lark71
      Sometime you need a slap on face to wakeup. Murikans are sleeping. 😁 They seem to be in lala land.
      Jun 22
    • Netflix mr.clippy
      Whatever you say. The problem is far more complex than that. Trump is the strong man dear leader but hasn’t done anything about cracking down on employers that hire illegals.

      I mean who will pick the produce, harvest the meat, clean our homes and places of work, cook our food in restaurants, mow our laws, do the grunt work in the hospitality industry, build our homes, and be our cheap labor nannies and maids?

      Like it or not, our economy is propped up by illegal labor. They come here for work and for safety and we get cheap goods and services as a result. And not one republican is willing to sign legislation to turn ICE against the enablers of illegal immigration, which is the employers.

      Building walls is fine. Go ahead. It won’t stop asylum seekers. And 40% of Mexican illegals just fly here and overstay their tourist visa.

      I want to see something more comprehensive other than build a wall. There is no silver bullet.
      Jun 22
    • Expedia Lark71
      Mr.clippy you have a point. Takexaway tte reason to b here and they wont come. Agree
      Jun 22
  • Gusto walala
    “The solution is to increase merit based immigration while heavily reducing family-based immigration.”

    Agreed. Many countries have such thing. UK used to have HSMP, Singapore have LPR, and so on.
    Jun 21 0
  • Microsoft UMbR31
    H1Bs threaten the power structure in America if given a green card, start their own businesses, settle down forever etc. So, America keeps legal 'non resident aliens' on a 'leash' at all times. When border jumper makes 1.5mil a year and buys the property down that Palo Alto cul-de-sac, borders will be shut.
    Jun 21 2
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      US Govt., the People's Republic of United States, need more slaves and poor labor. Sigh!
      Jun 21
    • Credit Karma BezozJ
      This is indeed true
      Jun 21
  • Microsoft zzkkmn
    Democrats hate legal immigrants, and Republicans hate all immigrants. That’s why H1Bs are treated like slaves in this country. End of story.
    Jun 21 0
  • New grWk56
    It is not true. It is the whole system that needs fixing. Both for workers, refugees and asylees. You can't just generalize, it is wrong.

    The big picture involves on what can have a larger negative effect on society. While an educated worker is not a direct problem, a person who is escaping a humanitarian crisis somewhere else will indeed be in more need of help than the worker.

    What is the point of being the richest without having a heart? Honestly, that is just being a piece of shit.
    Jun 21 2
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      Americans don't need heart. They need brain.
      Jun 21
    • New grWk56
      Maybe both? Haha
      Jun 21
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      No, I am not. I know active asylum and refugee statuses are different stories and those are legal.
      Jun 21
  • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
    Because Americans stupid.
    Jun 21 0
  • Amazon iSteveJobs
    Lol. You can think that these expenses are the cost you pay for the opportunity you have. Problem solved.
    Jun 21 0
  • Yahoo rkdbfq
    Trump in 2020. Let all immigrants be treated equal. :D
    Jun 25 1

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