US Healthcare a big Crime Organisation

ON Semiconductor / Eng chip_monk
May 23 22 Comments

I’m a foreigner. In my country when you show up in the hospital for any kind of treatment or consultation, you get an estimate first, decide if you can afford, check with insurance or whatever before you decide to go through. If you think otherwise, you can just walk away to a different hospital for better price.

First time visiting the hospital in the US was last week for something minor. Asked them for estimate and to my surprise they said they can’t tell me me til I finish. (Wtf in my head). It’s like getting a snack from Walmart and I have to eat it first before you tell me the cost? Goddamn.

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? This is the senseless shit I’ve ever encountered. Hospitals don’t have standard costs for standard procedures?

A mechanic can tell you how much it costs before he fixes a car? Why can’t hospitals in the US do same?
Why is it legal?

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TOP 22 Comments
  • Intel D’s🥜
    Why can’t it be fixed? Because most Americans fear change. Any policy change is usually opposed by fear that it creates outcomes that are worse.
    May 23 2
    • Google Mr. Glass
      And that fear is justified
      May 23
    • Intel D’s🥜
      ^Then vote for the politician that scares you the most.
      May 23
  • New / Mgmt
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    In your country do doctors provide diagnosis irrespective of your financial situation ? In US we do.
    May 23 2
    • Intel D’s🥜
      That’s not really true. When people can’t afford a test, they don’t get it done.
      May 23
    • ON Semiconductor / Eng chip_monk
      OP
      No... you have to be able to afford first. There are cheaper hospitals. Mostly the difference in price is in the facility, not the professionals. Like all the fancy decorations and rooms and stuff. Like differences in a hotel. You decide based on your money and insurance.
      May 23
  • Symantec GoRams
    If you can't fix "organisation" forget healthcare
    May 23 6
    • ON Semiconductor / Eng chip_monk
      OP
      It’s the correct ‘english’ spelling. I’m taking it to be a troll. Otherwise you just learnt something. Americans.... smh
      May 23
    • Symantec GoRams
      In US we speak en-US
      May 23
    • ON Semiconductor / Eng chip_monk
      OP
      @symantec ok I give up.
      May 23
    • Symantec GoRams
      If you cannot accept you are wrong, why would healthcare companies accept & fix themselves. Change starts within thyself.
      May 23
    • ON Semiconductor / Eng chip_monk
      OP
      Oh I’m wrong? It’s not the correct English spelling?
      May 23
    • Clover Health sinkinship
      In the U.S., we speak whatever fucking language we speak. Get over yourself.

      Also, physician heal thyself, pun intended.
      May 23
  • OpenTable Meliodas
    How can you get an estimate before they know what is wrong?

    Most people don’t bother with an estimate, because that is what insurance is for. You don’t really have to care what it costs beyond the copayment and deductible.

    When the cost does matter, insurance requires pre-approval.

    Don’t go to a hospital for something minor, go to your doctor. Hospital prices are akin to buying a same-day full fare airline ticket.
    May 23 0
  • Google anons2
    You're not wrong
    May 23 0
  • Apple / Eng gtUh6$
    Don’t know which hospital you’ve been to, but I always get asked if I want to proceed with the proposed treatment, and if it’s not fully covered by my insurance I get an estimate. Of course you still have to pay for the diagnosis. You’ve used a certain time of a doctor’s time, and that costs money, even if you don’t proceed with the treatment.
    May 23 4
    • ON Semiconductor / Eng chip_monk
      OP
      Why can’t I know how much it will cost before they do so I can decide?
      May 23
    • Apple / Eng gtUh6$
      Even for the diagnosis, if they don’t check you out, how can they know what’s the issue?

      Just because you say what your problem is, is that enough? a doctor has to verify before even proposing a treatment. That’s just common sense.
      May 23
    • Apple / Eng gtUh6$
      If a body shop gives you an estimate for free, that’s because:
      1) the risk of making a mistake in the diagnosis is lower
      2) the hourly rates for a mechanic are way lower compared to doctors
      May 23
    • Apple / Eng gtUh6$
      Finally, here’s another example:
      A mechanic starts a job based on an estimate your ok with, half way with the car completely disassembled finds out the whole engine needs to be replaced, and there no real way he can assemble it back before doing the swap. Is that a scam??
      May 23
  • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
    You know what. Stupid American would complain the insurance for either not covering the expensive cost, or charging too much for premium.
    They are to stupid to know the actual price decides everything.
    May 23 0
  • Yes it’s a huge scam , paid for by big healthcare lobbies bribing our politicians at every step
    May 23 0

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