US to Europe

Symantec / Eng 0xdeaf
May 2 24 Comments

Wondering if any one of you made this transition.

The salaries in Europe(Germany, Poland etc) seem so low compared to USA

The average salary here in FANG would be at least 150k USD base(this too is down leveling it). How much would a 150k salary map to in say Frankfurt, cologne, Krakow, tettnang etc.?

@microsoft, @amazon, @google

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TOP 24 Comments
  • New softcut
    50k euros at most. If you go to Europe money should not be your goal.
    May 2 5
    • Symantec / Eng 0xdeaf
      OP
      What should the driving factors be?
      May 2
    • New softcut
      Work life balance. Learning different cultures, etc. health insurance is almost free and high quality too. I personally prefer the US.
      May 2
    • Oath Atinlay2
      @OP. If you have to ask what the driving factors should be, how do you even know you want to do it?
      May 2
    • Symantec / Eng 0xdeaf
      OP
      Trying to get perspective here. Different folks have different driving factors, a conversation helps gain knowledge and cover all bases.
      May 2
    • Microsoft ghuhbb243
      Quite different priorities over there - more about life than about work.
      May 3
  • Symantec / Eng 0xdeaf
    OP
    Well there are a few great points about Europe.

    1. WLB
    2. Insurance and health care.
    3. Easy PR programs compared to USA.
    4. If one is from India, then easier access to home.
    May 2 2
    • Groupon / Eng sleepy
      1. You can probably get European wlb if you compromise Tc in the USA also. 2. It’s better, true. 4. 10hrs vs 24 hrs is probably not a big difference.
      May 2
    • Symantec / Eng 0xdeaf
      OP
      #4 makes a difference between life and death at times. It also makes a huge difference for ageing parents wanting to travel.
      May 2
  • Uber / Eng
    meowimacat

    Uber Eng

    BIO
    Hello humans 😺 this is my owners phone, but he doesn't know that I use it 😼
    meowimacatmore
    Don't go to Europe too low tc.

    If you want to experience different cultures without moving just live in a place like NYC with a lot of diverse people
    May 2 0
  • Amazon / Eng THmu30
    Depends if you want to work to live or live to work.
    May 2 0
  • Microsoft Frtgfd
    Level 62 MS Germany is about 150k€ TC.
    After Taxes, social security, health care etc. 84k€ not married no kids
    For Germany you can calculate your net income here.
    www.brutto-netto-rechner.info/gehalt/gross_net_calculator_germany.php
    May 3 8
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

      Microsoft Product

      PRE
      Bain & Company
      Brazukamore
      There are plenty of teams outside Redmond. I know there are engineering teams in Ireland, Norway, Germany, Poland, UK and Estonia for Europe. Plenty of India and China eng teams too.
      May 3
    • Symantec / Eng 0xdeaf
      OP
      What products ship out of the EU?
      May 3
    • Google / Eng lolwаt
      VS Code is developed in Zürich
      May 4
    • Symantec / Eng 0xdeaf
      OP
      Anything in kernel side?
      May 4
    • Microsoft Frtgfd
      German org is mostly Sales, Support and Consulting.
      And yes you take Home 84k€
      May 4
  • Amazon / Eng THmu30
    50k at most is too low. I'd say 70-100k for experienced devs in good companies. Faang can be higher
    May 2 0
  • Groupon / Eng sleepy
    Which level ballpark is this?
    May 2 1
    • Symantec / Eng 0xdeaf
      OP
      Glassdoor data us scant.
      May 2
  • New / Ops
    tooQ10

    New Ops

    PRE
    Rakuten USA
    tooQ10more
    I work in Japan and we have Europe style TC with US style WLB. I'd go to Europe in a second.

    I recommend visiting rather than moving here.
    May 2 0