Uber IPO - May 10

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  • New xizX84j
    It'll sink like the Titanic
    May 99
    • Uber Staff
      Jealousy much
      May 10
    • Microsoft gujedi
      Hasn't been so good so far
      May 10
    • Indeed wofjamakz
      Uber is about to make a ton of millionaires, and to think it only took the mass displacement of tens of thousands taxi drivers around the world and a driver payment scheme likened to that of payday loans with 25% interest rates. But hey, how are Uber tech bros and rich East Asians supposed to know/care when daddy paid for their higher education with the money he earned exploiting another group of workers. Uber is the biggest legal wage theft scam to date. Hope it goes out in smoke.
      May 10
    • Chase CIBCBD
      True, but I couldn’t get a cab in Manhattan between 4-5pm before Uber

      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      May 10
    • Microsoft gujedi
      Not sure it'll make as many millionaires as you think. They withheld around 36 percent of stock at ipo for tax withholding. When people sell in 180 days, if you assume the price doesn't change, people will find the withholding was low so will owe another 12 percent federal and a few percent Cali. You'd need over 40k shares to net 1 million. How many Uber employees have more than 40k vested rsu?
      May 10
    • 🖐
      May 10
    • New DEV_ENV
      Taxi drivers should leetcode and join next startup. Self driving cars will make them obsolete anyway.
      May 10
    • Unity thugelmo
      This comment aged well
      May 10
    • Microsoft Brazuka
      Taxi was a disgusing monopoly and terrible service in most places. Unless they actually owned the medallion (instead of renting it), taxi didn't make more than uber drivers. Not to mention how inefficient it all was of them driving idle and useless radio dispatch center.
      May 10
  • Juniper 404 found
    Sink like a piece of big shit
    May 928
    • Facebook Janitorque
      Cerner, yeah - things like don't kill people. Not things like, what form of privacy is good. This is a teachable moment for you, so maybe look here: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WEIRD
      May 11
    • Facebook Janitorque
      "That this was a potential problem has been vaguely acknowledged (at least in departmental chit-chat, if not in any change in behaviour) ever since psychologists started just doing all their testing on their own undergraduates, but was really bludgeoned home by the 2010 meta-analysis "The weirdest people in the world?"[2]y Joseph Henrich, Steven J. Heine and Ara Norenzayan, in which they trivially showed several claims of universal human behaviour to be nothing of the sort"
      May 11
    • Facebook Janitorque
      Cerner, please think or even read before spouting (I read a book a week, so am fairly well-informed about most things that people spout off on). You're categorically wrong.
      May 11
    • Cornerstone Isap82q
      I'd love to hear more about this other than pointing out that things can be different elsewhere. Do you have any links that explain your morality?
      May 11
    • Facebook Janitorque
      My morality is unimportant. I'm one guy, and my existence is utterly unimportant. The point is, universal morality is a claim that needs defending when there's enough evidence that even within cultures, morality is fragmented. For an American readership, I'd highly recommend Jonathan Haidt's Righteous Mind.
      May 11
    • Cornerstone Isap82q
      I guess what I'm asking for is a description of another morality that is different from the one in the west. I'm not trying to pick on you, but all you're doing is saying that it's not the only one and not following up with anything else.
      May 11
    • Cerner pfdP78
      “I read a book a week.”

      Who the fuck cares? What does that have to do with anything. Congrats, you’re just like millions of other people.

      Facebook has fundamentally contributed to the moral decay of society. Your platform has been a main culprit in depression, addiction, violence, and the death of people.

      GTFO with your moral high horse.
      May 11
    • Facebook Janitorque
      Cerner, why so triggered ... Just trying to edify. Of course you don't care (my mom does though, lol) - you're in the billions who don't read. Now some proof would be good - or will you quote Huffpo as science?
      May 11
    • Facebook Janitorque
      Sorry, only read books (typically 1 per week), not articles. Got any relevant books I could read? Lolol
      May 11
  • LinkedIn vfgh215
    Go up until the first earnings call. Good luck from there lol
    May 912
    • LinkedIn vfgh215
      Jokes on you orange I made a butt load of money in the acquisition
      May 9
    • @vfgh This is showing your narrow mindset. Grow up son !! What did u guys build in last few years ? Now living on mercy of msft. Just wait for the layoffs.
      May 9
    • Amazon n0v
      Lol, apple is one to talk. What did you build since Jobs left? Now living on the mercy of iPhone, and the innovation from a decade ago.
      May 10
    • Amazon DoubleD33
      Buddy of mine joined Uber 3 years ago with a pre-ipo stock price of $48 a share, and left for a FANG after his first year vested. Was high rolling the last 3 weeks taking us all out to dinner and drinks, and then shit himself when he saw the price.
      May 10
    • Google 500513
      Yeah Apple doesn't know how to innovate. You are basically the next Microsoft, from a decade or so ago. MS these days is actually nailing it and learnt from their mistakes unlike Apple.
      May 10
    • Why can’t we all just be friends?
      May 10
    • Akamai Technologies VmQQ44
      @n0v finally something we agree on. Apple hasn’t innovated since Job’s death. Really the only thing Tim has managed to do is cultivate a safe space culture for SJWs and perfect virtue signaling at the expense of innovation.
      May 10
    • VMware GDqX68
      @DoubleD33 What? 3 years ago it was already valued at $48 a share??
      May 10
    • Google tnxU67
      Yes, the valuation in 2016 was actually higher than 2018 IIRC.
      May 11
    • Apple lapy
      You can just built the right product and nail it. Example Apple Watch, pay, music. Btw someone saying apple is living on mercy of iPhone. How can someone be so dumb ? iPhone is apple product, if no apple there will be no iPhone. How many products apple has ? Do I ever count ? Apple doesn’t go with prototypes like Samsung folding phones and then retract them. Apple strikes it when the right time. You guys won’t understand the philosophy. Bs
      May 11
  • Google aiqqu
    People who got offers in early 2019/late 2018, what was RSU valued at?
    May 1017
    • their offer TC is ~10% higher compared to other companies even at $42 (from my numbers)
      May 10
    • lol I didn’t join , going to G. Although I still do believe Uber will grow in future, for now I made a safe choice
      May 10
    • Google QHeh40
      Thanks for data points Oath + Amazon. Interesting info
      May 10
    • Adobe jjjx12
      Roughly how many shares was uber handing out in these packages?
      May 10
    • Amazon ram76
      I was offered 1M USD over 4 years but chose a bigger company
      May 10
    • Adobe jjjx12
      In what year?
      May 10
    • Amazon ram76
      What’s your TC at Adobe? How many yoe?
      May 10
    • Microsoft yesterda
      My recruiter lied and said 80$ in feb 2016 , though I left after a year
      May 10
    • Adobe jjjx12
      Ram76, 130k, but my TC was 60k last year. 2 years of experience. I don't live in Cali though.
      May 10
    • Uber kPCK48
      End of '18 $40
      May 11
  • Bloomberg bbnhg
    Pop for first couple of days and then stabilize later around the IPO price.
    May 92
    • I like to think it’ll stabilize above IPO price but perhaps I’m biased
      May 9
    • Dropbox dbxla999
      Well what makes you think that? Not trying to doubt you but it’ll be helpful to defend your line of reasoning
      May 10
  • Tesla dhfjedofks
    This thread is funny one guy says it’s going to sink then the reply like is hahah fuck you look at your company.
    May 93
    • Uber Uberer
      🙂
      May 9
    • Google EIon Musk
      Classic straw man
      May 10
    • VMware yogiman
      That sums up pretty much every thread here
      May 10
  • Anaplan ndjrufh234
    Uber is too big to fail. Can you imagine trying to get a taxi the old fashion way?

    The drama and tariffs with China make this a bad week to IPO.

    Long term UBER will be more like TSLA. Burning through tons of cash but still attractive enough for investor to want to feel it’s tits.
    May 109
    • Facebook htoi88
      I don't think we are going to get taxi the old fashioned way but there is no long term plan for Uber. It has to pivot multiple times to survive.

      Tesla on the other hand can be profitable in the long run.
      May 10
    • Oath OPnd70
      Have you heard of Lehman Brothers? Or Bear Stearns? They were too big to fail too.
      May 10
    • Facebook htoi88
      I think you are generalizing too much here. Our economy depends on banks and hence the bail out. No government is going to come and pour money into a silicon valley company.
      May 10
    • Oath OPnd70
      The gig economy depends on disposable income and in the next recession there will be no disposable income. Given Uber has low margins as it is, I foresee headwinds and disaster with the looming economic downturn. Nothing is too big to fail. The world is filled with examples of gods and giants falling.
      May 10
    • Anaplan ndjrufh234
      During the last recession in 2008 the government bailed out the auto industry and several private companies like GM.

      The auto industry indirectly supports the economy through auto salesman, factory workers, suppliers etc.

      It’s the same with Uber, there are too many drivers that rely on this for income for it to fail.
      May 10
    • Oath OPnd70
      Did you not see them protesting pay? What do you think is going to happen in the next recession? You think they’re going to pay drivers more? Who is going to buy an Uber?
      May 10
    • Anaplan ndjrufh234
      The same people that buy a taxi. Uber is not a luxury item. It’s transcended to being a verb and normal means of transportation.
      May 10
    • New IGzi05
      Followed the conversation, Irrespective of which Uber is solving commute problem what respective govts failed to address, Enabling local commute.

      Incase of a recession, You would rather take an Uber than take a loan and buy a car

      Uber as a brand could lead this growth across nations.
      May 10
    • Microsoft yesterda
      Feeling tits - well that’s a great use of those two words in a sentence. I basically forgot what I read after those 2 things and they are stuck to me - I will use it in future
      May 10
  • CBS Interactive t1c
    Everyone bashing Uber, we need to understand this: someone has to die for someone else to prosper. Some people in the Middle East has to die for the West to control oil prices. It's the order of nature. More humans on this planet = more animals getting wiped out/killed for food.

    Uber hasn't done anything particularly wrong except capitalise on a market that didn't exist and provide end users with an excellent service that didn't exist before. You lose something to get something.
    On ethical grounds, they are no different than Amazon.

    Congratulations to all the hard working engineers and architects at Uber for building an excellent platform so Dara & his big wigs can cash in 300x on your hard labor!
    May 102
    • CBS Interactive t1c
      Let's not forget, the "noble" Alphabet aka Google has over 5% ownership at Uber
      May 10
    • Salesforce pmyz88
      Especially given Dara did nothing and will make a lot of money ..
      Many latecomers will indeed make ton more than original hard working employees
      May 11
  • Dell mlDf77
    Uber touch 52 tomm... mark it
    May 94
    • LinkedIn vfgh215
      Not looking good
      May 10
    • Amazon zmrR08
      How do I short your opinions from now on?
      May 10
    • Oracle vvundela10
      38 by next week
      May 10
    • Bronto Software w204c63
      If this becomes true.... god damn. Currently at 41.57
      May 11
  • Dell mlDf77
    It will pop ... super pop tomm... be ready at 6:30am pst if u dont want to miss the bus
    May 93
    • Google 500513
      That was the smallest pop I ever saw at ipo
      May 10
    • Twilio ahoyahoy
      "negative" pop
      May 10
    • Apple gtUh6$
      If poop going out is positive poop, the negative poop is what I think it is?
      May 10
  • Amazon ps.ily
    This says all you need to know
    May 104
    • A perfect example of cherry-picking stats. You've contributed nothing to the conversation, I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.
      May 10
    • Facebook уes
      Pretty clueless stat by itself. How about the size of the market? Surely lots more riders.
      May 10
    • And don't stop the data at 2 years ago. A lot has happened in that time.
      May 10
    • Yelp sJJv80
      Where’s EBITDA in these stats?
      May 12
  • Google policies
    Wall Street valuation expert pegs stock at $20-25. He was right about Lyft till it sunk even more.
    May 95
    • Twitter levels.wtf
      Not saying Uber is gonna fly high but analysts are bull shitters with English degrees. These people need to be hung by their four brain cells.
      May 10
    • Google policies
      Well the stock on day 1 just proved him right partially.
      May 10
    • r/wsb isn't "experts"
      May 10
    • Twitter levels.wtf
      How does a 7% drop equal proving him right. They are claiming a 50%+ drop.
      May 10
    • Google policies
      Wait. Didn't I write partially? He was spot on for Lyft and then Lyft skidded even more.
      May 10
  • Facebook htoi88
    I don't understand what the unique value proposition of Uber is. It is currently not a profitable business. People and driver's will easily move to another service if they offer better rates. Their maps suck. They are not the leaders in the self driving tech.

    The IPO feels like Ubers way of making the employees rich for their efforts to get cheap rides for everyone so far.
    May 103
    • Zillow Group TKact2345
      IPOs are supposed to be a funding round, just with the public rather than private investors. So it doesn’t necessarily make sense for a company to be profitable at IPO, they should theoretically still be focused entirely on growth.

      But I agree that there is no first-mover advantage in ride-sharing. Uber May have just cleared a path (costly legislation/regulation changes) for others to blaze through.
      May 10
    • Facebook уes
      I think Uber amassing and keeping a good staff of engineers is a part of the competitive advantage to expand into new businesses and pivot which is crucial to growth play
      May 10
    • New / ÷
      I think IPOs happen when next round of financing is no longer attractive to private capital in terms of ROI/risk.
      May 10
  • Bloomberg mwbf58
    Is it a good time to join Uber. I have an offer from them 😅
    May 105
    • you can wait it out and see how it goes
      I was able to stall my offer for 2 whole months before rejecting.
      May 10
    • Bloomberg mwbf58
      It'll be 1 month next Friday! So yeah, I'll stall. Thank you
      May 10
    • Facebook whentostop
      They usually extend offer with 1 week ‘deadline’. What it means is that they hold the position for you for one week. If deadline is due and you don’t accept, they will hand out offer to others. If they don’t have other candidates or other candidates decline their offer then yes, most likely they will still take you if you decided to join latter. But there is a chance that the position could be gone and they are hiring by position so your offer is no longer valid in that case.
      May 10
    • Bloomberg h6f9g8s6k
      ☹️ really? Shit. I'm worried now. :/
      May 10
    • Microsoft yesterda
      No
      May 10
  • LinkedIn Zeiwkf5
    Hypothetically: if an Uber employee quits today, can they sell right after or are they still subject to 6 month lockup?
    May 103
    • Amazon KULL00
      Lockup applies.
      May 10
    • Uber aOhM84
      Still subject to the 6 month lockout.
      May 10
    • Atlassian YeIi10
      Lockup also applies to anybody who's left before IPO, as long as their RSUs are otherwise vested.
      May 10
  • Salesforce awscli
    Priced on low end of range to bait plebs. Can’t wait for options to open.
    May 96
    • Google mubj
      When are they opening?
      May 10
    • Salesforce awscli
      Options? Maybe a week or two.
      May 10
    • Salesforce DUGE25
      Are you planning to short?
      May 10
    • Careem UkOj63
      I am going to short in a week or two. Missed Lyft, now they dropped 40% - probably still room to drop
      May 10
    • Salesforce pmyz88
      A lot more room to drop ..
      Employees will be crying when it is over ..
      May 11
    • Salesforce awscli
      Booked 61st floor for private speculation party
      May 11
  • New SBgg50
    Layoff are coming
    May 100
  • Amazon ggrrddee
    Uber should rename itself into Under ;)
    May 106
    • Uber oOBb03
      You mean Unter.
      May 10
    • Amazon ggrrddee
      It's missing the ü dots to qualify for unter. That's why I suggested under...
      May 10
    • Microsoft dgvhurhbjt
      When the U is capital, it doesn't take the dots
      May 11
    • Amazon ggrrddee
      That's not correct. Über would be the right version if it was used as a noun in German. There is no Uber or uber in German. But Über as noun in German has a connotation of the Nazi term Übermensch which was the first thought I had when I heard the company name for the first time some years ago...
      May 11
    • Microsoft dgvhurhbjt
      Oh I always thought otherwise somehow. Is it possible that a lot of people don't put the umlaut on capital letters? Don't know how I got this in my head if not. Thanks for educating me :)
      May 11
    • Amazon ggrrddee
      If people omit the dots on capital or lowercase letters (due to lack of keyboard or glyphs to print) they will need to append a lowercase e after the umlaut character, like Ueber instead of Über. Which is semi-correct German spelling, but generally understandable and acceptable ;)
      May 13
  • Facebook tRH5kn
    People who joined 2017 March-ish, around the negative news cycle, what was your grant value (per stock and total)? I think they raised the total then
    May 100
  • Townsquare Media triplef
    Winter is coming for Uber.

    By the time lockup expires in 6 months Uber employees may not have a bucket to piss in.
    May 112
    • Facebook уes
      Maybe, but at least they are not dicks working at Townsquare Media. That’s equivalent of being the bucket of piss
      May 11
    • DoorDash ayU68hq
      Why are you so sour triplef? The people working there didn't do any harm to you did they?
      May 11
  • Marketo MFNi38
    Another snapchat lol
    May 100
  • NetApp patno
    I think it will do better than Lyft
    May 100
  • Microsoft Cbrvgsxu
    Will short this shit day 1
    May 105
    • Facebook уes
      You clearly don’t even know how to short with this statement, wannabe investor
      May 10
    • Microsoft Cbrvgsxu
      Of course i know how to short. Why do you say that with this staytement
      May 10
    • Facebook уes
      Well because you would know that you can’t short it just yet, nor can you buy options yet
      May 10
    • Microsoft Cbrvgsxu
      You can short day 1 after it ipos. How is that incorrect.

      If you’re saying now. You can’t buy it either so what are you talking about ?
      May 11
    • Facebook уes
      To short you need to borrow it, good luck finding that
      May 11
  • Zillow Group TKact2345
    Happened on the worst day. Right after Trump announced more tariffs and the market slumped.
    May 104
    • Facebook tRH5kn
      If you look now all major tech stocks are green actually
      May 10
    • Apple gtUh6$
      Which tech stocks are green, buddy?
      May 10
    • Facebook tRH5kn
      Well that just got changed. But it’s still minor drop. For reference when I looked F G N Amazon were all green. Now G is still green
      May 10
    • Microsoft yesterda
      M is green
      May 10
  • Apple Creampie
    May 102
    • Zillow Group TKact2345
      I think that second number should be million not billion. Would be crazy if they gave him ~80% of the company.
      May 10
    • Yeah 100bn? Typo...
      May 10
  • Google sqrt(-1)
    I bet it will close around $41.50
    May 101
    • Microsoft yesterda
      Damn you were bang on !!!
      May 10
  • Amazon trailblzer
    Go up initially, only to come down eventually.
    May 90
  • Google GfTq22
    If Uber underwithheld at 36% (instead of 48%), and the share price declines 35% by expiration of lockup, employees will be left with 30 cents on the dollar of their RSU package. Fingers crossed that we will avoid another explosion of tech dorks destroying local property markets...
    May 1011
    • Salesforce pmyz88
      Did they have to pax taxes on vest, even though they couldn’t sell because of lock up?
      If so this is a disaster ..
      May 11
    • Facebook уes
      Its not a disaster unless you have a crystal ball to see where stock will be in 6 months. For most tech stocks it is an eternity
      May 11
    • Salesforce pmyz88
      It is a given that the stock is going to get a hard correction
      May 11
    • Facebook уes
      If you have such a foresight about given corrections you should move to finance. Nothing is given in the marketplace except uncertainty and some measure of risk
      May 11
    • Salesforce pmyz88
      Yeah doing quite a bit one the side and doing great ..
      Financially I dependent as they say and plan to retire soon
      May 11
    • Facebook уes
      Great, maybe you can also tighten up your grammar when you retire :)
      May 11
    • Salesforce pmyz88
      No need .. won’t retire in US ..
      May 11
    • Bloomberg Fork()
      Technically, you could carry losses forward forever. That said, losing money you and is going to suck no matter what.
      May 11
    • Facebook уes
      Yea, it is all more relevant to discuss at least closer if not on the lockout expiration date
      May 11
    • Uber GavinB
      Didn't you describe Lyft just now?
      May 11
  • $35
    May 107
    • Salesforce diurhdngr
      Which year ?
      May 10
    • In three weeks
      May 10
    • That’s my prediction. I got in around $33 in 2018
      May 10
    • Salesforce diurhdngr
      How much stocs ?
      May 10
    • Texas Dollars
      May 10
    • Amazon jetty4.3
      Are you trying to encourage a sell off so you can buy low? Or just pessimistic about about the outlook of your company?
      May 10
    • With 180 million shares outstanding, I don’t believe I could move the market. I’m just looking at Lyft’s revenue multiple. They trade around 5x revenue. Applying that to Uber gives you about $65B valuation. Add some more for Didi, Grab, etc. and more interesting “story.” So maybe $72B. It’s not me, it’s the market.
      May 11
  • Pure Storage looeese
    CONGRATULATIONS UBER! You have successfully become the shining example of what kind of culture not to have, whilst ripping off thousands of drivers and making their lives miserable. You did it! You should be proud of yourselves! All for < 40$ per stock.
    May 101
    • Microsoft Cbrvgsxu
      ??? Why does $40 per share mean anything or matter? If it IPOs at 1000 a share or 1 dollar a share does it matter? Or you didn’t take finance? Market cap matters.
      May 10
  • Apple Creampie
    Another non-profitable DOT COM pump-and-dump
    May 100
  • Google EIon Musk
    It will fluctuate
    May 100
  • Amazon LAxL08
    🍌
    May 90
  • Microsoft asbifksb
    It will win in the longer run..
    May 102
    • Microsoft yesterda
      The longer run is like 15 years ? They already won , by fooling so many investors (though VC world is making a lot of money)

      They don’t need to win for the stock to grow, they just have to keep saying they will win , like they always did
      May 10
    • Salesforce pmyz88
      Yeah will cash out and GTFO ..
      That’s how they’ll win ..
      May 11
  • Bloomberg Fork()
    Who is a new millionaire or billionaire?
    May 101
    • Zillow Group TKact2345
      No one, really. Not at least for several months when their trading window opens.
      May 10
  • LinkedIn smsk
    Uber service is not scalable at zero cost, and Uber has no new story to tell. Target price 35 by 8/10
    May 100
  • Pinterest ppppppin
    Congrats from PINS!
    May 100
  • Apple stevejerbs
    RIP
    May 100
  • Apple Wapple
    💩💩💩
    May 90
  • Pinterest woxjendis
    The price is kinda low. Was there a split or people got their stock above market price ?
    May 103
    • MapR Technologies maps?
      I had the same question
      May 10
    • Pinterest woxjendis
      What was the answer ?
      May 10
    • MapR Technologies maps?
      Other answers above provide pointers. There is no mention of stock split. Looks like it is indeed low
      May 10
  • Careem car.in
    Uber bought Careem. I have lots of stock options. Hoping for something big !!
    May 100
  • Intel Hunting
    Cant talk about any stock right now... 😔
    May 100
  • Careem UkOj63
    Sell Uber and buy Tesla - the only potencially robo-taxi company. Later Google will also enter the market. As for Uber/Lyft/Careem it is not profitable nor sustainable, unless they double the price and in that case they will loose the market (to local taxi companies)
    May 102
    • Broadcom Ltd. ravenwwwe
      Well All the car in world can be used for Uber but for Tesla robo taxi they need new cars. Elon can ask Tesla owners for their cars to be used as robotaxi and share some profit. Car can drop you to work and work for you as robotaxi and come back to pick you up when asked for.
      May 10
    • Google davi5
      Thinking of all the Tesla owners I know, not a single one would opt into robo-taxi. The expensive techie status symbol is diluted quite a bit the first time a drunk high-schooler throws up in your back seat.
      May 11
  • FedEx kuQj33
    Volatile for at least a few months. Very heavily dependent on public 'expert' opinion. Diversification of revenue looks promising in comparison with Lyft.
    May 100
  • Workday mrmouse123
    Funny. I thought blind was only for complaining and talking 💩 on anyone trying to make it in this world. You must have had a positive Friday. 🤪
    May 100
  • Microsoft Brazuka
    Uber employees and investors will rush to sell stock causing even more devaluation.
    May 100
  • New DuQvV7y
    Über alles? Nicht!
    May 100
  • Tumblr yUIG23
    What was the 2018 grant value?
    May 100
  • Oracle vvundela10
    81bn company. Wait no buy at this point. Its going to keep loosing money time 2 time
    May 100
  • Oracle Poas871285
    If LYFT market value is 14B should UBER be around 45-50B? Just trying to understand how much it should drop
    May 102
    • Oracle vvundela10
      Some where between 33-35 good entry point. Its over valued currently
      May 10
    • Facebook уes
      Facepalm all the way. Uber is in tons of countries and has a hefty set of investments into competitors in Asia.... keep multiplying...
      May 10

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