Uber L6 vs Microsoft L66 Manager

Microsoft gzd1783
Apr 5 15 Comments

Hey Blind, I have an offer at Uber L6 to manage a team of 4 with the charter to grow the team in the coming months to around 6-7 while establishing processes for my discipline all up. Currently managing a team of 14 with 2 Senior Managers reporting to me at Microsoft L66. TC is 25% better at Uber with the risk of the stock going either way post-IPO. Would mean going from a much larger team to a smaller team, but with interesting challenges and in a completely different domain, culture, and work environment. Have any of you done something like this before? Any advice to offer?

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  • Uber zippedy
    M1 isn't L6 at Uber , it's L5A. Advice : don't join Uber
    Apr 5 2
    • Microsoft gzd1783
      OP
      I should have been clearer. The level is L6 but I'm going to be the only manager for now of a flat organisation vs being a manager of managers at Microsoft.
      Apr 5
    • Microsoft gzd1783
      OP
      Thanks for the advice. If you don't mind, can you also share why you think I shouldn't - will help to have another perspective.
      Apr 5
  • Uber jYw5sh9
    Assuming engineering but if not, the following may not be accurate. L6 is Senior Manager at Uber which almost always means managing managers and orgs somewhat larger than 6-7. EM1 is equivalent to IC 5A (Senior Engineer) and generally not hired externally. At L66 at MSFT, it could also be an EM2 role (Uber L5B, equivalent to Senior Engineer 2).

    I've seen a variety of Microsoft managers come into Uber. Most work out well and adapt, but there definitely can be some culture shock at first especially around process and inconsistency of engineering practices/technology.
    Apr 5 1
    • Uber jYw5sh9
      I've never heard of any engineer or engineering manager going back to Microsoft after Uber. Some product folks though. Join us!
      Apr 5
  • New Kusha
    Are there L5A / L5B / L6 levels for both ICs and managers ??
    Apr 6 4
    • Uber channels
      Yes
      Apr 6
    • JOANY / Mgmt e^(iπ)+1=0
      Why are there two level 5s?
      Apr 7
    • Uber channels
      🤷‍♂️
      Apr 7
    • Uber jYw5sh9
      It used to just be level 5, but they split it in early 2016 because the jump from 5 to 6 was so large.
      Apr 7
  • Uber goroutine
    This is definitely a level up from L66. Which office - SF or Seattle?
    Apr 6 0
  • JOANY / Mgmt e^(iπ)+1=0
    Stay at MSFT. Uber's stock will not hold. And you're managing a much bigger team at MSFT. When do you see your next promotion coming? I bet it'll be sooner at MSFT than Uber... Also consider that.
    Apr 5 0
  • Uber pookpook
    L66 mostly likely would map to L5b, if you got L6 offer, it is a greatly deal. However, L6 manager usually manage several teams with 25-40 total people. I would double check with recruiter about the level. What is your current TC and offer?
    Apr 6 0
  • Uber whodi
    Come to Uber. Huge plus side, lots of challenging work and high impact.
    Apr 5 0
  • Indeed rage a lot
    TC boss.
    Apr 5 0