Uber V/s LinkedIn

Uber 91!gd
Apr 13, 2018 44 Comments

Need help with LI offer eval

Current and LI - both Non-Engg roles

Current: L4
Base - 110k
RSU ~ 20k/yr (409A rate)
Bonus target - 10k/yr
No 401k, ESPP

LI offer: IC3
Base - 135k
RSU ~ 12.5k/yr
Bonus target - 10%
401k, ESPP

Need help in answering :
- Uber L4 to LI IC3, is it a down level?
- Does the bump in base and MSFT stock justify giving up current Uber stock? (I know it’s paper, but it will have some value eventually)

LI Recruiter was unwilling to budge

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TOP 44 Comments
  • Intuit val halla
    Uber subsidizes every ride and is a long way from a profit. Its more likely that ride sharing will crash and burn than an IPO at this point. Go LI.
    Apr 13, 2018 6
    • Intuit val halla
      Keep telling yourself that, drone
      Apr 13, 2018
    • Uber ifuendu
      Uber subsidizes every ride - false
      Is a long way from a profit - lol! No one honestly knows this.
      More likely that ride sharing with crash and burn than an IPO - this is definitely incorrect. Ride sharing is here to stay whether it's Uber Lyft or something else!
      Apr 13, 2018
    • Intuit val halla
      I never said it was going away completely just that more likely to crash then uber ipo. Its an un-investable model. Im sure others will try as well even in ubers decline. Its just a poor, non protectable business model currently being disrupted by bikes and scooters.
      Apr 13, 2018
    • Uber / Eng bag
      Val halla, e-commerce was also not profitable due to competition. Do you think Amazon survived?
      Apr 14, 2018
    • Uber 91!gd
      OP
      Thanks, we know.

      Not worried about Uber’s future. Really just want an eval on the above offer
      Apr 14, 2018
  • Uber ought
    Always take liquid over non liquid if the comp is same
    Apr 13, 2018 5
    • Uber ljlljlljl
      Say that to the hundreds of millionaires who joined Uber 4+ years ago. While what you say is partially true, fortunate favors the brave, no risk no reward
      Apr 13, 2018
    • Uber ought
      Again, "If comp is same" liquid is liquid, if I am joining an startup, even a unicorn like Uber. I expect 2x equity because payment is delayed. Also there is no guarantee how the stock will perform when Uber IPOs, not to forget lockup period. Microsofts stock is stable. Its better to cash out on RSU and invest in FAANG than to take a risk with Uber for same comp.
      Apr 13, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Eng
      whatsmynam

      LinkedIn Eng

      PRE
      Amazon
      whatsmynammore
      Microsoft stock is stable???
      Apr 14, 2018
    • Uber ought
      Are you trolling ? Or you seriously dont understand what stock stability means ?
      Apr 14, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Eng
      whatsmynam

      LinkedIn Eng

      PRE
      Amazon
      whatsmynammore
      What's your definition of stable stock?
      Apr 14, 2018
  • Uber Jamal
    You should be honored that we accepted your candidacy and you’re aboard this rocket ship
    Apr 15, 2018 3
    • Google / Product callofwild
      Glad Travis' “Always be hustlin'" spirit is still strong.
      Apr 15, 2018
    • Uber Jamal
      If it was really ‘your’ company you wouldn’t be walking around with a LinkedIn offer. stop embarrassing yourself. Please elaborate on what my comment has to do with being inclusive and why you must resort to such juvenile tactics such as name calling?
      Apr 15, 2018
    • Uber / Eng
      Rqwx5o

      Uber Eng

      PRE
      Google
      Rqwx5omore
      He's being sarcastic
      Apr 15, 2018
  • Microsoft ZuckB
    Check out levels.fyi for level mapping. I’d shop around for better offers if I were you. The little increase doesn’t seem to be worth the hassle of switching companies etc.
    Apr 13, 2018 3
    • LinkedIn tyope
      Levels.fyi is for engineering roles
      Apr 13, 2018
    • Uber 91!gd
      OP
      True
      Apr 15, 2018
    • Microsoft ZuckB
      What non-engineering role?
      Apr 15, 2018
  • LinkedIn Hdufienbsb
    It’s more about work. 10% less in compensation is nothing if the work at uber really grows your skills and connections.
    Apr 14, 2018 1
    • New / Eng
      Lambada

      New Eng

      PRE
      Uber, Snapchat
      BIO
      Code of the Road
      Lambadamore
      😂 lol
      Apr 14, 2018
  • Google / Product callofwild
    LinkedIn, and I usually like to take bold risks. I have zero confidence in Uber right now, although Dara might prove us all wrong.
    Apr 14, 2018 0
  • 110k base is a L3offer at Uber. Also, 409a doesn’t mean much and it is companies best interest to have very low 409A value so they pay less tax. As a young person, this is the best time to take risk. Uber might be risked but will offer more to your career than LinkedIn.
    Apr 14, 2018 3
    • Google / Product callofwild
      Can you be more specific about how Uber has more to offer?
      Apr 14, 2018
    • Uber 91!gd
      OP
      Thank you. I’m L4 non-tech. Uber’s non-tech pay is 25th percentile of market rate.
      Been here over a year. Haven’t found my career growth even with above target perf. Hence, looking-around.
      Apr 14, 2018
    • New / Eng
      Lambada

      New Eng

      PRE
      Uber, Snapchat
      BIO
      Code of the Road
      Lambadamore
      “As a young person, this is the best time to take risk” is recruiter speak for “we’ll work you long hours because you are young and don’t have a family at below market rates.” As 91!gd points out reality is very different at Uber.
      Apr 15, 2018
  • New / Eng
    Lambada

    New Eng

    PRE
    Uber, Snapchat
    BIO
    Code of the Road
    Lambadamore
    LinkedIn has a great brand and the comp is about 10% up. There is also a lot of value in just seeing how different companies operate from a learning perspective.
    Apr 13, 2018 0
  • LinkedIn kelps
    Uber doesn't provide 401k?!
    Apr 14, 2018 2
    • Capital One / Eng NameIsFake
      I think they mean 401k matching
      Apr 14, 2018
    • Uber 91!gd
      OP
      Correct - no match
      Apr 14, 2018
  • LinkedIn foobar123$
    Go LI
    Apr 15, 2018 0
  • LinkedIn MzqC50
    Your stock seems really low. I’d suggest walking if they’re unwilling to do 100K over 4 years at a minimum.
    Apr 14, 2018 0
  • Google / Product callofwild
    Also, try to get more equity.
    Apr 14, 2018 0
  • LinkedIn tVfy86
    Curious what role that is at LI. I went from non-eng -> eng role while at LI and that opened my eyes to how pathetic the non-eng equity was. You should try asking for more.

    Would this be LI in SF or SV?
    Apr 16, 2018 2
    • Uber 91!gd
      OP
      SV
      Apr 16, 2018
    • LinkedIn tVfy86
      That commute is going to be rough.
      Apr 16, 2018
  • Can you not keep the earned Uber RSUs? Can you not sell it to Uber gradually for new hires?
    Apr 15, 2018 1
    • New / Eng
      Lambada

      New Eng

      PRE
      Uber, Snapchat
      BIO
      Code of the Road
      Lambadamore
      You can keep vested RSUs. There is no liquid market for them. SoftBank recently offered to buy some at a significant discount to what recruiters had been telling candidates that RSUs were worth.
      Apr 15, 2018
  • Uber / Eng bag
    LinkedIn offer is slightly more but I think Uber brand is stronger on your resume than Linkedin and the Uber product feels much more exciting (to me and possibly to you) than iterating on a already built professional networking website. The impact of Uber is also much more on society and is a heavily watched company. When did you last read any news about LinkedIn?

    I wouldn’t go. To leave Uber you need have much more compelling company and offer.
    Apr 14, 2018 1
    • LinkedIn / Eng
      whatsmynam

      LinkedIn Eng

      PRE
      Amazon
      whatsmynammore
      Want to talk about branding? Uber kills people, LinkedIn does not.
      Apr 15, 2018
  • LinkedIn / Eng
    whatsmynam

    LinkedIn Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
    whatsmynammore
    "it will have some value eventually" ... Why?
    Apr 14, 2018 1
    • LinkedIn / Eng
      whatsmynam

      LinkedIn Eng

      PRE
      Amazon
      whatsmynammore
      When???
      Apr 14, 2018

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